The Last Drop For Entrecard

Written by Jason Katzenback on January 13th, 2008
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We’ve had the entrecard (EC) widget on our blog for a while now and never really actively participated in their booming community. If you’re familiar with their forums, you’ll know there’s a select group of EC power-users. They seem to wake up, and go to bed with nothing but EC on their mind. Their blog’s are filled with post after post on how to increase your EC traffic, how to optimize it for your blog, how to network with the community,Top droppers MeMes, etc etc. That’s all great, but we think some are getting a little carried away with it all, unknowingly destroying the system.

saphrym.jpgHere’s the thing: The whole purpose behind EC is to get noticed in the blogosphere because your 125×125 ad gets displayed on other blogs that have signed up with EC. Obviously if your card is featured on a huge blog like Problogger (who gets sponsored by EC) or JohnChow, you’re bound get get a nice bump in traffic for those 24 hours. Currently the cost for these two blogs is 330 and 260. So why on earth would someone waste over 400 credits to get featured on a blog that has 21 RSS subscribers? You wouldn’t if you have your head screwed on the right way!

We’re not saying your blog is bad or crap, we’re just saying there’s no justification for such a high price, having compared the stats with the other blogs. It’s like us starting to ask $900 for a review, while you can go and get one for half that amount on JohnChow.com. We’d set ourselves up the bomb!

Now this is where the problem lies. The EC powerusers are so keen on getting becoming popular within the ranks of the community, that they are working hard in chain dropping their cards on all EC blogs each day, just to accumulate more credits and inflating their own advertising prices. Emails keep getting send around, asking for drops, reccomendations and whatever else it is that will get you popular on the categories pages.
Its really not doing any good for anyone. The blogs that get their cards dropped on are experiencing an increase in bounce rates. The bloggers that stops dropping quickly vanish into thin air. The bloggers that keep dropping, is happily inflating their own advertising cost. And for what? Just to get featured in the top 3 on their respective categories?

Bouncerates through the roof.

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Unfortunately the current system “Effort=Reward” has become unusable since it has been encouraging this form of ‘gaming the system’ and the end result causes a distorted view of how popular a blog really is on the outside world. If you think you’re paying 400 credits to get featured on a popular blog, therefor getting high exposure to the blogosphere and receiving a bump in traffic, think again. You’ve just wasted your hard earned credits on a blog that might look popular inside the EC community, but isn’t all that popular outside the community – where it matters if you’re looking for traffic.

The only way to stop this is to alter the script so it won’t add to your ‘popularity’ when you’re dropping cards. Getting more popular because cards are getting dropped on your blog is a natural and organic type of growth, which would be a more accurate reflection of the popularity of a blog in the place where it really matters – the blogosphere. Until the EC team can find a way to prevent blog inflation from happening, we’re dropping EC.

(PS We’re waiting for Becky’s ‘told you so!’ comment).

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123 Responses to “The Last Drop For Entrecard”

  1. The Last Drop For Entrecard | John Cow dot Comjohncow.com106 comments We’ve had the entrecard (EC) widget on our blog for a while now and never really actively participated in their booming community. If you’re familiar with their forums, you’ll know there’s a select group of EC

  2. rate will also go up based not only on how many cards are dropped on your blog or ads that are purchased on your blog, but also because of how many cards you drop on other blogs. I don’t agree with this system and it’s actually something thatJohn Cow had mentioned on his blog recentlywhere he makes a lot of good points. Perhaps EntreCard will hopefully get rid of points for dropping cards or at least significantly reduce their effect on the price of ads for the card droppers blog, but in the mean time we have to make the most of

  3. truth. It may not be easy, but we will learn and grow a community from our own fearlessness. What if they hate us, you ask? Well, we have thick hide. We can communicate and defend our hatred of whatever might need exposed. Take a look at The Cow’spost on the Entrecard system. He stomped down on the heart of the Entrecard discussion, and look how many comments came of it. 126. That’s 126 compared to the average twenty to thirty on other topics. Take a look at everything in the blogosphere. Use a critical eye and expose

  4. John Cowremoved their entrecards. Whilst it’s there blog and I fully respect their decision (unlike some other JC readers – “Why have you removed it? It’s sooooo unfair!” etc. At which point the earth left it

  5. Are you with Entrecard ??? Lots and lots of blogs are retaliating against Entrecard because of the bounce rate they are experiencing on their blog.Johncow was the first to start this, and there were many blogger’s who followed the same. Some say they dont want it because some blogs, which have much much low readership than johnchow and problogger, cost more than them.

  6. most hated) networking tool for bloggers. If you’re not familiar with it, here’s the theory: A widget box, like the one displayed here (but not working on the blog post) gets placed on your site. Other Entrecard users visit your blog, click on the “drop

  7. I suggest that you be prepared to work hard and click even harder. The harder you drop cards and participate in the forum, the theory is that people will also drop you a card back. Therefore, the cost of your advertisements gets higher. Also, theentrecard explanationfrom JohnCow seems pretty true. People are here to click and go. Until today, my site only cost 15 points to advertise. I see some website with PR0 and high high alexa ranking cost more than 200 credit. It shows that I am lazier than them and I do not

  8. … How to GAME EntrecardThe Last Drop For Entrecard | John Cow d…Entrecard BlogEntrecard Update Review | No nonsense In…[?]

  9. I suggest that you be prepared to work hard and click even harder. The harder you drop cards and participate in the forum, the theory is that people will also drop you a card back. Therefore, the cost of your advertisements gets higher. Also, theentrecard explanationfrom JohnCow seems pretty true. People are here to click and go. Until today, my site only cost 15 points to advertise. I see some website with PR0 and high high alexa ranking cost more than 200 credit. It shows that I am lazier than them and I do not

  10. First, AN ANNOUNCEMENT: Watch my Entrecard 10 Feb 2008 12:42 Someone special with the initials JC (not John Cow) has advertised on my EC widget ;) for the Chinese new year! Yes, it’s official! The pig has left the building! Today is the first day of the Lunar Calendar Year and the beginning of a new cycle of animals (since the Rat is the first of the 12

  11. t afraid to make bold decisions and follow through on his personal beliefs. Cow ditched Entrecard because he thought that it wasn’t a good strategy for building up the herd. Now, if you check out his website, you’ll notice what he calls an “Exitcard.” I’ve dropped my Exitcard a few times on his site, and it seems to work out a lot better than hassling with Entrecard… Anyways, John Cow isn’t afraid to ever express his personality or feelings towards other bloggers and his followers. You can

  12. ini masih berjalan ketika ini dengan hadiah-hadiah menarik yang saya fikir takkan anda tolak. Panduan membuat widget untuk blog anda [flash] – Tutorial ringkas membuat widget untuk blog anda disertakan sekali element untuk dimuat-turun.The death of Entrecard- Penjelasan mengapa JohnCow merasakan Entrecard tidak mendatangkan manfaat bagi anda dan blog anda.Penjelasan yang harus dibaca oleh anda yang menggunakan Entrecard di blog. Bagaimana cara untuk ‘

  13. currency of the blogosphere.” He has a long way to go before that happens but there is definitely potential in what Entrecard has to offer. The traffic coming from Entrecard isn’t great and many bloggers havedropped the widgetbecause of that. Will Entrecard come through? Only time will tell. In the meantime, Entrecard is sponsoring 3 Fast Passes, 3 Featured Statuses, and 5000 Credits for the contest. The action is this:

  14. s popularity within the system and not on things that web site advertising is normally based upon. The exponential pricing scheme is an attempt to address this inequity that was noted by John Cow in this post,The Last Drop For Entrecard. While this addresses this concern, it probably goes too far and may well alienate many active power users of the system.

  15. Entrecard.com. And started clicking, Dropping, earning EC’s and buying Adds on more or less serious blogs. I thought, i buy adds and get traffic. This has been going on for a few weeks now. Then i ran into“The Last Drop For Entrecard”article over at JohnCow.com. Thank you John Cow, for waking me up. That was a wake up call. I’m still thinking about as i write this article. Entrecard is only a popularity contest. Where the Most Popular blogs on Entrecard, are the one that don

  16. EC Drop says:

    5.John Cow dot Com, John Cow, “The Last Drop For Entrecard,” 01.13.2008Cow was quick to blast Entrecard, with some honest criticism. While, not anywhere near Blogger Unleashed, this article was in better taste. However a later ‘nasty post’ was titled “Graham Langdon, Have You Been Naughty?

  17. is a blog ad sharing network. Basically you show banners for other sites and earn credits that let you “buy’ banners on other sites. It’s pretty popular in the SEO and making money blogger realm.John Cowhas an indepth review of the service from earlier this year. Yesterday Entrecard announced that they are deleting the accounts effective July 1st for those users who are running “quick drop pages.

  18. Entrecard is a blog ad sharing network. Basically you show banners for other sites and earn credits that let you “buy’ banners on other sites. It’s pretty popular in the SEO and making money blogger realm.John Cowhas an indepth review of the service from earlier this year. Yesterday Entrecard announced that they are deleting the accounts effective July 1st for those users who are running “quick drop pages.

  19. the internet around the subject: Bye Bye Entrecard  @   paulhartrick.com Strong Reasons Why you should not install  … @  http://www.ixibo.comThe Last Drop For Entrecard @   johncow.com Post adverts I have not approved @  guymclaren.com Entrecard account deleted – my mail, their reply and my reply   @ ruelicke.net

  20. e about an hour and a half from bookmarked folders of 30 x 10 sites. I would like to thank all of my regular droppers and will miss dropping on you, but feel my time would be better utilised elsewhere. Since I’ve been using EntreCard I have become concerned about thebounce rate.You want visitors that will actively take part in your blog, not visit and leave a few seconds later, and the time constraints of dropping 300 cards a day ensures that the vast majority of your Entrecard visitors will drop and run. Since I have made this decision I feel like

  21. and see if there would be any significant increase in my blog traffic. Then after a few days of religiously dropping my card to other sites, I checked my blog traffic and found out that it increased drastically! I’m just a little worried about thebounce rateissue that I read on the internet though. Nonetheless, I still think Entrecard is a great traffic booster as long as every EC dropper spends longer time in your blog. So please try to leave a message on the blogger

  22. Gasmoney says:

    OK i actually sat here and read all the comments posted and I can tell you its not for everyone. Entrecard can be great for small blogs but for blogs like Johncow, Shoemoney etc it just doesn’t make sense. Imagine the time and effort it takes to check in and review each advert for Shoemoney when he can easily be building another site like fighter.com . So don’t shit on bloggers that choose to remove something that doesn’t work for them on their OWN blog. Its not like hes telling you to drop it now is he? He’s just letting you know he is and giving you HIS reasons I’m sure everyone can make their own decisions right?. simple. So relax and go about chain dropping your cards. I’m sure that will be more effective than writing great content :evil:

  23. I like some of the points you made and just recently posted on my blog some tips on how to make the most of your EntreCard credits that many of you might be interested.

    http://www.chrisguthrie.net/make-the-most-of-your-entrecard-credits/

    But yah, EntreCard please get rid of the effect dropping your card has on your advertising price.

  24. [...] is getting paid to have the widget on his sidebar, it won’t. As Graham points out on John Cow’s “drop” post – But Entrecard is, without a doubt, most beneficial to small and medium size blogs who can really [...]

  25. I can see both sides of this argument. I’ve seen benefits from using Entrecard, but mostly due to an increased Alexa rank. I realize that the improved rank is because of many ads I placed all over the blogosphere. I think some blogs are overpriced and underpriced in the world of Entrecard though. My best day in terms of traffic from an ad placement came from none other than Problogger, so it goes to show that the bigger the blog, the more hits you get.

    To argue for Saphrym’s blog, his blog may be climbing in popularity, so getting in at 400 credits may be a good investment to some. As Graham said though, people should carefully consider the blog they advertise on with Entrecard, and consider if the credits are worth it.

    But I also believe in using Entrecard for other aspects. I’ve seen the new shop, which offers some pretty interesting items for credits. People now can get hosting or blog designs without spending money or entering a contest. It’s all how you want to use it I guess. Nonetheless, it still has done more for most people’s blogs than Blogrush has :)

  26. Usman Money says:

    They should limit the amount of time. Like make there sytem to check how long the use has been on the site.
    As all the dip shits do is go to your blog click drop card and see ya.
    That is the only reason you see n00b ass blogs advertising on top bloggers.

  27. Suzanne says:

    Well, we all start somewhere and get traffic as we can. Some copy the style and name of big A-list blogs to get fame and fortune and some drop Entrecards. Get over it.

  28. This is very true…..to be honest, I’ve been saving up to get on the best blogs so that I can get more traffic…….that was something that I was already figuring out early on. They’re all good while they last right? Lol! :razz:

  29. [...] with the quality of traffic from Entrecard has grown over the past month. John Cow who made his last drop of Entrecard, Becky who also dropped her Entrecard and Ritu who bid goodbye to Entrecard and is giving away all [...]

  30. [...] you’ve read about other blogs dropping the entrecard widget because they found it useless, like the most famous cow on the internet did, but who cares anyway! Don’t just go with the flow, keep it for as long as it is doing good [...]

  31. vorax says:

    very intresseting but i can drop my entrecard ?
    no !?
    i ‘ll come later :mrgreen:

  32. [...] communicate and defend our hatred of whatever might need exposed. Take a look at The Cow’s post on the Entrecard system. He stomped down on the heart of the Entrecard discussion, and look how many comments came of it. [...]

  33. BonoRiau says:

    is this really effective

  34. LiveCrunch says:

    Nice one JC , but I think that traffic is well worth to get exposed to other bloggers, I mean since I use this system I met so much more bloggers and talk to them and comment on their blogs like never before.

    You are right about waisting the time. :grin:

  35. Paul says:

    EntreCard is growing quickly but I’m worried it will burn itself out unless Graham manages to monetize the traffic for bloggers. Its biggest hurdle is that the traffic generated is other bloggers trying to drop cards. This is the modern form of spamming.

    In the sense that it generates traffic EntreCard works, no doubt there (at least initially). As far as being of value in terms of users and bloggers alike, I’m very skeptical.

    Personally I’m a bigger fan of content linking. It brings better users increasing CTR as well as traffic. Remember 1% increase in CTR is worth hundreds of users. Link your blog with similar pages (the core of Arkayne) and you’ll get better page rank and CTR.

    For The Curious: Arkayne.com

  36. lamib says:

    EntreCard’s a good idea, but the implementation lacks: the widget’s ugly.

    …Off to some real feedback, I think they should explain what EntreCards really are (instead of leaving us with some 5-minute long video who nobody wants to watch to the end). Their website looks dull too, and as this post points out, there’s some major flaws in their concept.

  37. [...] from this, John Cow’s decision to quit from Entrecard added a nail to Entrecard’s publicity as I quoted the following from him: The EC power users [...]

  38. Steve says:

    Wow, looks like your alexa has freakin TANKED since you dropped Entrecard you freakin idiot

  39. -Paul says:

    And his subscribers has grown by around 200….. not quite sure what you are trying to say Steve.. subscribers up…alexa down…. lets see the $$ report before we start throwing names around..Mr Steve who won’t leve a link to his site… maybe a blogspot eh…with 1 subscriber..hehehe

  40. gasmoney says:

    E card has its pros as well as it cons. All you have to do is identify that with your own blog and forget what others think or say. do your own homework with stuff , cause if you don’t then you definitely are in the wrong niche.

  41. [...] i posted quite a while on JohnCow.com about his dropping EnterCard. It seems its still buzzing over there with a mixed review of things. Now i wanted to tell all of [...]

  42. Neil Duckett says:

    Come on Steve, come to the party …. let’s do a head to head comparison between johncow.com and gutlesssteve.blogspot.com on Alexa.

  43. [...] Searching on the net for any other blogger who had the same experience, voila! I was quite suprised to read this one on John Cow’s blog! The last drop for Entrecard! [...]

  44. [...] I found through Entrecard and he is brilliant. I love his blog as well. So, all in all – eventhough John Cow has dropped his Entrecard membership due to high bounce rate on his blog, I am not there yet. I still find it useful at this time and [...]

  45. [...] is still new and has it’s holes… Here is some more detailed explanation from John Cow blog: The Last Drop For Entrecard | John Cow dot Com __________________ UK Webmasters Directory – Submit your site for free listing! UK Webmaster [...]

  46. Pete says:

    i just thought i’d give my 2 cents. I started my blog just over a week ago, and at the time I had only a few (3-4?) subscribers on my rss feed. After putting up entrecard i now have close to 40 subscribers in less than 2 weeks. So I think it has been more than worth it for me.

  47. nick says:

    so far so good; as my 1 month old blog (also my first one) is almost cracking the top 100,000! I know it averages past 3 months but if you look at past weeks ave. then i am at 106,000 and the only network, group or whatever I use or ever used is entrecard and really not was to serious w/ it until 2 weeks ago.
    I am already getting 250 uniques/day, have a technorati authority of over 240 giving that silly figured blog value of $136,000; I have over 50 subscribers and ready… just started to offer a lifetime membership to a site that is not yet launched at $100/pop and I am getting people to buy-in!!!!! take a look it is tallied using chip-in- i also am going to crack the 100,000 top site mark within 5 weeks of starting this blog and not paid one cent to advertise, no blogroll, etc… just entrecard! my rank on feed the bull for top stock sites is at 11th (for the first week that it has been listed) o yeah technorati rank 22,000, member of that site for a whole 2.5 weeks!! See what you guys think of the numbers?
    http://www.platinumpicks.blogspot.com
    ~~ by the way… if interested , i am still offering a lifetime ad link on top of this blog along w/ a lifetime membership to my pay stock site $100 see my 90%+ accuracy!
    Mr. Chow I know you are laughing at these numbers but I am knew to this and read your posts frequently, I am just letting others know the success that I have found so far using this system even though I am sure there are others that may be less effort, as of now this is working for me. Thankyou for letting this comment to be published on your site. Your returning reader,
    NicksPicks – Platinumpicks.blogspot

  48. nick says:

    by traffic rank above, i am sorry, I was referring to Alexa traffic ranks
    :roll:

  49. [...] 70%. That’s nearly as bad as my bounce rate after the digg effect. This is where the term Exitcard comes into play (created by John Cow). He used this term in frustration over Entrecard’s [...]

  50. nick says:

    one more thing, entrecard, as it seems like a pain, the window stays open as u move to the next, so the time visited should be longer than a sec or 2. right??

  51. [...] against Entrecard (the widget on the left inviting you to ‘Drop Yours’), since a forum post and blog entry on Johncow.com.Aside from the fact it highlights one reasonably-sized blogger doesn’t always read what they’ve [...]

  52. gasmoney says:

    like i said its not for everyone.

  53. [...] AN ANNOUNCEMENT: Watch my Entrecard 10 Feb 2008 12:42 Someone special with the initials JC (not John Cow) has advertised on my EC widget ;) for the Chinese new [...]

  54. Its kinda funny how Saphrym is exploiting his daughter to get more card drops. Her blog doesn’t accept adverts and yet it is always on the “Lowest Wait” section because of it. EntreCrap won’t stop it either. Poor management in my opinion.

  55. evilwoobie says:

    @ apple pie recipe

    Please DEFINE “exploitation”….
    How dare you. A dad wants to share the fun he’s having at his online social network and you call that exploitation?

    Saphrym happens to be a funny guy who parodies people’s quirks. THAT’s why he’s famous.

    And to even call him as a child exploiter should reflect just how nauseating your world must be.

  56. [...] of EntreCard, there seems to be a growing concern about its usefulness. Many bloggers such as “John Cow” (with much fanfare) and Patrick Altoft (with no fanfare) have dropped it. Now we have newcomers to [...]

  57. [...] for my blog and my RSS feed, but I don’t want the hassle. Maybe this is why sites like John Cow and John Chow have dismissed EntreCards value. Increase My Traffic & Yours! Join My RSS Party & [...]

  58. Big announcement coming in the next two weeks…

    Entrecard is going to start making money for its members. Soon, all those chaindroppers will be making you REAL money. Not only will Entrecard continue to bring you steady traffic, boost your Alexa, your subscribers, and your comments, but it will make you MONEY.

    Stay tuned… you won’t want to miss this!

  59. Man..such a long comments post :roll:

  60. JohnShoe.com says:

    EC is still a good way for a new blog to get some free traffic.

    Steve

  61. [...] Tech News gives tips on how to make the most of EntreCard. He gives 10 tips to help you use the system to increase your traffic. The question still remains: is any traffic good traffic.  Is EntreCard Traffic good traffic.  As EntreCard droppers fly from site to site dropping cards at lightening speed, do they really help your site by merely boosting your statistics artificially? Should you follow Tech News’ tips and boost this traffic or should you drop EntreCard to avoid the decreasing bounce rate of your site.  Here is what John Cow thinks. [...]

  62. I’m glad i came acoss this! I thought i was the only one experiencing large amounts of bounce rates but it seems not. The only possible & seeable way forward i believe is creating a certain 10-30 second time delay before users can click the EC widget to another blog.

  63. [...] Claims of “gaming” Entrecard, usually related to #2. [...]

  64. [...] rewards its users. John Cow was the first guy to point out this problem. In his post entitled the the Last Drop for Entrecard, he writes: Unfortunately the current system “Effort=Reward” has become unusable since it has [...]

  65. modemlooper says:

    I have entre card and its more of a pain in the butt than anything else. I can’t justify all the time spent dropping cards. Its the equivalent of begging for change. The blogrush scam is just as bad. The ideas are great but they really do not drive traffic to blogs. I get more hits from one bulletin on myspace.

  66. Jeff Millman says:

    I think one of the benefits of EntreCard is to quickly find a bunch of other websites that are “traffic-minded” and are looking for ways to build traffic. I can quickly find some amazing tips to build traffic by reading fantastic posts and also network, and get credits for my own marketing purposes.

  67. bluejay says:

    I’ve started using EntreCard over the past week or so and I’ve seen the nice bump. But after reading your post I’ve checked the bounce rate and your right, it is very very high. I’ll probably keep the widget up just for some of the technorati traffic but I’ll lay back on submitting in the future.

  68. [...] not long ago there was a whole discussion about the advertising price of an Entrecard user, John Cow wrote a post about this! An Entrecard user who has a high advertising price suppose to offer you [...]

  69. Anonymous says:

    Entre Card full of Stumble Cheats

    I have just noticed this post in the Entre Card Forum:
    http://entrecard.com/forums/4/3848/#p=2
    According to the StumbleUpon rules this looks like gaming the system…. and when you keep reading some of the other threads you seem the same people com…

  70. Matt L says:

    Perhaps the bloggers should set their own EC prices. This way, prices can’t be artificially inflated and people still can get free (non-money) advertising on blogs.

    Also, for big blogs, putting up entrecard can hurt their advertising prices. If my EC is 100, but normal 125×125 spots are $85, I will stop making cash….

    Just an idea, don’t know much about EC though.

  71. [...] Seriously, what the heck were these guys thinking? I give all of the credit in the world to John Cow for refusing this service. But evidentially, things have yet to hit home for many [...]

  72. [...] is interesting that John Cow stopped doing EntreCard and cited some good reasons . Still, it’s good for traffic to my blog even though the bounce rate is over [...]

  73. [...] The death of Entrecard – Penjelasan mengapa JohnCow merasakan Entrecard tidak mendatangkan manfaat bagi anda dan blog anda.Penjelasan yang harus dibaca oleh anda yang menggunakan Entrecard di blog. [...]

  74. natespost says:

    I discovered what a joke etrecard was about an hour after installing it.So I decided to play the system in a MAJOR way – http://natespost.com/index.php/entrecard-scam-mongo-credits/

    natespost’s last blog post..Entrecard Scam – Mongo Credits

  75. [...] have to agree with John Cow*, even if that meant taking a stance against Entrecard. While Entrecard gives a large amount of [...]

  76. Christian says:

    Or.. you could get the top droppers widget for entrecard. Check out how to use the widget:

    Last droppers widget

    Christian’s last blog post..Entrelist – Entrecard last droppers widget

  77. [...] I think about it, the more I believe that card droppers have broken the system. And after reading The Last Drop for EntreCard by the cow, I think I’m bang [...]

  78. Canucklehead says:

    Well, looks like I’m late to the party – as always.
    Without actually offering much new to the discussion, I think we all have to admit to Entrecard is not for everyone. I have a love/hate relationship with it myself for many of the reasons listed above. However, at the end of the day I have found a number of great websites that I likely would not have without it and made a number of friends. It truly is its own little world in there and the key is to remember is that it is only a microcosm of a bigger one. I respect anyone’s decision to leave of course, but I do believe that having larger blogs participate would be beneficial to all parties. At the end of the day, the system indeed favours though who have a LOT of time to devote to it – the key here is not to care. If you can win friends and influence people by sacrificing a 125×125 square on your site. Well, the decision of course is an individual one … cheers!

  79. [...] know I’m not alone in questioning this system, John Cow has written some interesting articles on dropping Entrecard and conducting an Entrecard [...]

  80. Diane Scott says:

    Personally I like the system and think Entrecard works very well. Like anything and everything “marketing” online, there are many that ruin the experience (sometimes for everyone). I like to open several, give them all several minutes of “just sitting there” time, and then go one by one visiting each to see if there is something I’d like to add my two cents to… And I find maybe too many opps to do this…

    For instance – you wonder if the system is blown and not worth the effort. Well just BECAUSE you wrote about Entrecard, I’ve been here at least 10 minutes or more reading your post and various and sundry comments left by others.

    No one can make anyone do anything. If you don’t like the system, it’s your blog. However, we do like it and are meeting some really interesting bloggers using Entrecard :)

    Diane Scott’s last blog post..A Strange Thing Happened on the Way to the Giveaway

  81. EC is a great system if you recognize it for what it is. A Tool. Plain and simple.

    If you use it with Alexa’s sparky or some other similar form of ranking before dropping mad credits you can get some amazing results. For example JohnChow’s EC is only 192 ec. WOW!

    Warm geeky regards,

    Karl “TheAdmiN” Gechlik :mrgreen:

    Karl L. Gechlik | AskTheAdmin.com’s last blog post..Dropbox Review

  82. Felex Tan says:

    I absolutely agree,a lot of EC users have high credits bu low traffics,on the other hand i noticed that some EC user although they have low credits,but the traffics are constant because 1)Loyalty RSS readers 2)Quality content 3)High rank .They have low credits is just because of they are not active in EC not because of the crap contents or whatsoever.

    Felex Tan’s last blog post..Surf with U Mobile?

  83. Now that’s a full blown discussion! I’ll use it for a minute, but like Cow, if at the end of the day it doesn’t add value to the blog I’ll find another traffic solution.

    Dave from Welcome Back Rosenthal’s last blog post..Martin Luther King Jr. James Brown and Vh1?

  84. nithin says:

    Hi, what you said is absolutely correct. If entrecard is used in a good way then every one is going to get benifited. But on the other hand those who are more keen on dropping rather than reading content will get benifited coz while dropping if the banner is attractive then that site is going to get good visitors.

    Anyway though using entrecard on our blogs , It is not mingled with our blog but it stands away and its work is only worth for entrecard users. My bouce rate has also increased and I knew it was because of this Entrecard.

    nithin’s last blog post..Socialspark.com – I Am Invited For Alpha Testing

  85. Will take a look at entrecard now….I have heard a lot about it but never really followed it up.

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  86. LogBlog says:

    I’m new into entrecard and i think it’s a nice way for newbies to get noticed (at least a little bit). The future will show ec’s value for me. Thank your for this controversial post and the discussion.

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  87. Chris says:

    You are a marketing genius john cow just like your namesake or almost name sake john chow.

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  88. Nishu says:

    i think entrecard is a failed experiment for users .. with creators apparently earning a few dollars per day via project wonderful ..

    PS: dont you think adbrite ads are killing your website??
    you dont need them do you ?

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  89. PagedLife says:

    Even with the bounce rate, it gave you 455 users that did not bounce.

    I would view that as positive.

  90. Eerik says:

    Entrecard is only good for getting a hgher CPC in adsense..

  91. mxyzplk says:

    I think I wont know is it good or not yet before I try it my own…

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  92. Diane says:

    Granted by this post Entrecard has changed the system (I love how you can maintain all websites from one login!), but I wanted to read down to get the general feel for “do you love it, like it, or hate it.” Personally, I enjoy using Entrecard, but I also do not just drop and run. I figure if I’m going to take the time to visit, I will do my best to find something to say somewhere – commenting is key.

    Also, in reading this caught my eye: “And keep in mind that your homepage has five full posts on it. There isn’t much of a reason for 75% of the traffic to visit another page when they can read your five latest posts from the landing page, unless they’re searching for something specific or are interested in advertising.”

    I do believe I will try decrease the number we have on our front page, it may be a tad high LOL!

    Oh, and I came via Entrecard :)

    Dianes last blog post..Why You Should Start A Blog or How to Increase Website Visitors Without Really Trying

  93. spartax says:

    I think Iam agree with Eerik ;”.. Entrecard is only good for getting a higher CPC in adsense..”. Most entrecard member visit other blog just for click drop button and go.. :mrgreen:

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  94. [...] with the quality of traffic from Entrecard has grown over the past month. John Cow who made his last drop of Entrecard, Becky who also dropped her Entrecard and Ritu who bid goodbye to Entrecard and is giving away all [...]

  95. [...] Then of course there was the famous spamming of John Cow’s blog when he had the audacity to remove the Entrecard widget … and let’s not forget the comments made on the same John Cow blog that were later [...]

  96. [...] you think of Entrecard? Do you think that it is going to stick around or do you think that they are digging their own hole. I really liked the idea of Entrecard but just don’t see it really going [...]

  97. [...] banners on other sites. It’s pretty popular in the SEO and making money blogger realm. John Cow has an indepth review of the service from earlier this [...]

  98. Hi,

    I think now the visitors of your blog will stay for few minutes not only post their views as comments but also reduce your bounce rate…

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  99. Gaje Master says:

    I read about this on another blog and was curious so I did a search on entrecards and your blog came up. I am glad that you posted this but their blog contridicts what you said. Their post says that it helps any type of blog big or small and that it really works. I am going to give it a shot since my blog is a small one but I am only going to do it as a test run. Entrecards kind of sounds like a lot of work when you could be getting a bunch of traffic elsewhere for little work.

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  100. AZ Blogging says:

    There are so many things going on around the Entrecardosphere that I really will not wnt killing myself over. I really wish there was a way I could avaoid Entrecard. Maybe I will, when my blog gets bigger.

    For now, there are only two things about EC that i really care about

    1 – Drop as many cards as possible
    2 – Spend credits wisely

    AZ Bloggings last blog post..Are You Worth Their Time?

  101. mommy says:

    Well, you can always give that a shot and see if it works or not, there is nothing to lose.

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  102. Tony says:

    Wow this was from a long time ago, so I guess they changed their mind about Entrecard. For us it works great. Its dropped our RR but Alexa is a little slower, but every bit helps. But using it as a tool, mixed with getting ours (and our former customers) ranking high in Google, it serves its purpose.

    A lot of times things don’t work. A lot of times people don’t know how to use a variety of tools. This could be a mix of both- a little.

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  103. For a while, I was one of those sites which was in the top three in my category. But, I was not a money making site. About three weeks ago, I could not log into Entrecard from home. I could log in everywhere else but not from my home computer. I tried for several weeks for tech support to help me. Every suggestion they made was very simplistic and did not truly address the issue, so I have been effectively locked out of entrecard. I am still getting a decent amount of traffic from them, but it is slowly declining.

    I have decided because of the technical support issues I will try and find something else to generate traffic. Also, it takes a lot of time and clicking to maintain an entrecard presence. I think if I can figure out how to use Digg, or a few other high end social sites, I might be able to get the same amount of traffic without the time investment.

    I had problems before. I think they want to make money and often discriminate against sites that are not about making money. A lot of the site categories like photography, arts (there are a lot of etsy stores), web comics are not hugely focused on making a lot of cash.

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  104. David Lamb says:

    This analysis is right on the money. I write for an independent political blog (killerbuffalo.com) and have experimented in various ways to get more readers. The first thing I came upon was blogexplosion.com. If anyone knows how it works, it’s similar to EntreCard: you mindlessly browse random blogs on the internet to get credits that so that other people will mindlessly browse your blog to get credits for themselves. Ultimately, there’s a huge productivity gap; everyone is working for no reward. We’ll see if EntreCard can change the system to one that tracks unique views of sites and exchanges banners on that basis. If it doesn’t, I may be out too.

  105. 93civEJ1 says:

    I can see how EC would just cause blog inflation in just one community. I think it would be more wise to generate traffic outside of one community as well. BUT, for the time being with just starting out as a blog newbie, I am dropping my “business card” but at a slow rate. I kinda think its retarded honestly. :shock:

  106. DnDCorner says:

    My experience with Entrecard has been positive. Of course the vast majority of the traffic will simply bounce through, but a small percentage of people will stop and comment. Some will just stop and look.

    It is definitely not for everyone. I do recommend it for new blogs, and for people looking for ideas about blogging and building blogs.

    One thing I notice is that a lot of bloggers don’t really get outside of themselves much. They get into their routine and don’t move beyond it. Entrecard, by its nature makes you see more of the blogosphere, which overall I think has a positive effect.

    I’m not refuting the inflated bounce rate, or the inflated pricing structure for advertising. It is simple common sense that one must take a look at the cost of advertising.

    Excellent post, and thanks.

  107. [...] until I have at least 50 quality posts, IMHO) I did find an interesting perspective on Entrecard: http://www.johncow.com/they-are-killing-entrecard/ There seems to be a very big love/hate divide with their ranking system. Let us know what you [...]

  108. [...] I put them on my site for a while. But, after some time a lot of bloggers found out the most of the traffic was crap, and took the widget of their site. Non of the big bloggers got the widget on their site anymore, [...]

  109. [...] blog traffic and found out that it increased drastically! I’m just a little worried about the bounce rate issue that I read on the internet though. Nonetheless, I still think Entrecard is a great traffic [...]

  110. [...] be better utilised elsewhere.Since I’ve been using EntreCard I have become concerned about the bounce rate. You want visitors that will actively part take in your blog, not visit and leave a few seconds [...]

  111. Gina says:

    Hmm. I almost considered joining entrecard, but the process seemed to complex for me. I mean, it can’t be hard to drop cards, but that’s what I feared, you could get carried away with it. Then all it would be about is dropping cards.

    I prefer a free approach. If people want to read what’s on your blog they stay. If they don’t, they leave.

  112. [...] be better utilised elsewhere.Since I’ve been using EntreCard I have become concerned about the bounce rate. You want visitors that will actively take part in your blog, not visit and leave a few seconds [...]

  113. jackst says:

    This is well said and observed in many members dropping e-cards. They are just dropping cards without being interested to your blog and posts. They are only good for newbies and new blogs starting to get traffic.

  114. [...] after many popular bloggers ditched it for better things, and some considered Entrecard to be a waste of time due to the fact that in order to gain a lot of advertisers, or visa versa, you need to drop as many [...]

  115. Well I’m much wiser for having read this. I just now stumbled upon entrecard. this is the 2nd post I’ve read up on it and it was negative. Maybe if it were different and concentrated on generating real traffic, it would not be a zero sum game. [I win you lose] But, I guess to do that, would mean the founder would have to actively work at generating traffic for his site, instead of setting something up that noobs would jump in and swim around in the cess pool and think it’s gravy.

    *sigh*

  116. mechape says:

    Today you need much more credits to advertise on popular blogs within EC community. No doubt they are inflated beyond resonable. But there is a new moment in the story of EC : it is becoming real ad network for advertisers outside of that small circle.

    It is not clear still how the things will turn out. Will this system mutually benefited for both parties or may be just for the people behind the project.
    Time will tell, but clearly it is a significant change for the whole EC economy

  117. I can see both sides of this argument. I've seen benefits from using Entrecard, but mostly due to an increased Alexa rank. I realize that the improved rank is because of many ads I placed all over the blogosphere. I think some blogs are overpriced and underpriced in the world of Entrecard though. My best day in terms of traffic from an ad placement came from none other than Problogger, so it goes to show that the bigger the blog, the more hits you get.

    To argue for Saphrym's blog, his blog may be climbing in popularity, so getting in at 400 credits may be a good investment to some. As Graham said though, people should carefully consider the blog they advertise on with Entrecard, and consider if the credits are worth it.

    But I also believe in using Entrecard for other aspects. I've seen the new shop, which offers some pretty interesting items for credits. People now can get hosting or blog designs without spending money or entering a contest. It's all how you want to use it I guess. Nonetheless, it still has done more for most people's blogs than Blogrush has :)

  118. You said it right there.