Nice Bloggers Finish Last

Written by John Cow on March 26th, 2008

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Well, Darren might be an exception to the rule, but it seems that the nicer you are, the less people will read your blog. A sad but realistic statement if we look at the following examples. It doesn’t take much for a blog to spark controversy and hit the right buttons with the right people. A prime example would be us dropping Exitcard Entrecard about two months ago. All the EC villagers were running around with torches and pitchforks, out for cow blood. Over 180 comments on that post alone, and we we lost track of all the blog posts that were published left and right soon after, all dedicated to us dropping EC. Some bloggers agreed, most didn’t - but hey, that’s the beauty of our freedom of speech.

Some of our more “successful” posts always seem to have some sort of controversial topic. We’ve done the monthly stupid cow awards, called out people that scammed us or were trying to scam others. These are the posts that got a lot of attention, comments and linkbacks. Its almost as if the majority of our readers doesn’t care about the nice things in life, all they’re looking for is a bit of slandering and name calling. Have a look at the following popular posts, and see what we’re talking about:

There are plenty more posts like that, just have a look in the archives if you’ve really got nothing better to do :twisted: The point is, all these posts have some sort of negative aura that surrounds them, yet they’ve proven to be some of the most read and most commented on. Is it just because people like to see other people getting slagged? Or because it simply triggers a sort or primal horde/mob reaction in our brains? Perhaps it was just the reader base we had at that time (groups of readers seem to flock around blogs for a period of time before moving on the the next one. New readers will take their place).

whatever

We’re saying this because we started to notice a downwards trend in the comments quantity. Less “nasty” posts equals less comments. Maybe we had more comments in the past because we differentiated ourselves from a lot of other bloggers. Bloggers that tried to sugarcoat a lot of their “rants”, trying to be diplomatic and making sure not to tread on anyones toes.

What do you guys think? What could be the cause for a decrease in the comments on certain posts, while meanwhile, we’ve gained ten times the amount of RSS readers? Another theory we have - perhaps when people read blogs through their RSS reader, they are placing some distance between themselves and the blog. They won’t be able to see any comments that other readers have left, so they aren’t being motivated to mingle. There is a lesser sense of community if you do not visit a blog in your browser, you’re more of an observer, less inclined to have your say about a topic.

Whatever it is, we’re trying to fix it. Not by posting more nasty stuff about other bloggers (unless they deserve it), but by utilizing the Comment Luv plugin. Every time you leave a comment, you latest post title will be added as a link to your comment. we believe this is a better way of “rewarding” readers than the Top Commentators plugin, which we’ve removed little while ago (might be another reason for the decrease in numbers!).

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44 Comments »

Comment by Jorge
2008-03-26 22:07:57

Great idea Cow! I think you should blame the feed. A partial feed might work.

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Comment by Making The Money
2008-03-26 23:14:29

I installed CommentLuv a long time ago and it didn’t appear to have any positive affects on the number of comments. One thing it does do though is help pull out the false positives in Askimet. (Bot spammers don’t enable it).

I did an experiment with 2 almost identical blogs and the top commentator plugin, it does appear to have a huge affect on comment numbers. Also agree entirely about being bad, the posts where I reveal a hack, or slag something/somebody are always my most popular. Just a shame it goes against my nature :)

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Comment by sir jorge
2008-03-26 23:16:33

i use comment love too, and the cow is rad.

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Comment by Lori
2008-03-26 23:17:57

I have great results with the comment luv. I think it’s a much better reward than being in the top commentators list! Glad to see ya sharing the luv;)

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Comment by Max Miroff
2008-03-27 00:32:31

Aww, but who doesn’t love the abuse? :twisted:

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Comment by Tom Beaton
2008-03-27 00:52:38

I can believe that. Controversy just brings out people’s passions and they like to stick up for what they believe in. A bit of controversy works well, but non stop controversy is very tiring.

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Comment by Jim
2008-03-27 01:56:06

I think that a lot of bloggers, yourself included, confuse controversy with aggression. In this I mean that you can be controversial without calling someone out altogether and bashing them… I feel that it is the controversy, not the flat-out name calling that gets you the win. ;)

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Comment by Neil Duckett
2008-03-27 03:39:33

Controversy = Comments …. it’s just human nature i guess, when you disagree with something you’re much more likely to want to say your piece than when you agree. When you agree all you’re doing is re-itteraing the sentiments in the original post, thus having contributed nothing to some extent.

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Comment by Matthew
2008-03-27 04:37:22

I started reading you guys a lot before the “controversial” crap… and I do agree and disagree about your post. People are drawn to controversy, but we have plenty of readers without being “mean”.

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Comment by Paws Awhile
2008-03-27 05:25:53

You think Darren is an exception, but you haven’t tried to post articles that are as “nice to people” as his usually are. Have you?

Your non-nasty posts are generally more of the benign type than of the benevolent. Just an observation.

I am a subscriber to both your blog as well as Darren’s… you both have your individual styles and flavours, and that is what holds the key to the number of comments on your blog. Nasty is your brand of blogging, but hey, well branded nice bloggers can do just as well IMO.

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Comment by Jason
2008-03-27 06:45:35

Controversy and drama always draw people to comment, it’s the same reason millions worldwide watch those crappy soap operas every weekend - they can’t help it :razz:

Good luck on increasing the comments :)

 
Comment by James
2008-03-27 09:45:01

So what? Are you really discovering it now? No way… Of course people like gossip and bad news… for others :-)

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Comment by Simon
2008-03-27 11:59:27

Hurray for controversy lol.

Speaking of Comment Luv vs Top Commentators, I think it would be a very interesting experiemnt to see what happens to comment numbers if you were to put the “top weekly commentators” at the very top of the blog, just above ‘milking the internet since 2007′.

 
Comment by Rhys
2008-03-27 14:13:00

I can’t be controversial. I’m too nice. In the end me being nice gets me more comments.

And I really should get CommentLuv on my theme, the guy who writes it is one of my readers. Feel like a meanie :(

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Comment by Rhys
2008-03-27 14:13:32

Oh and Darren is nice. Ever know a mean and evil Australian?!?

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Comment by 45n5
2008-03-27 14:48:15

“Nice Bloggers Finish Last”? Lol, you must not be paying attention.

there are plenty of nice people, in the very niche that this blog is in, that are doing well

http://performancing.com/

http://www.doshdosh.com/

http://www.entrepreneurs-journey.com/

http://www.caroline-middlebrook.com/blog/

http://www.dailyblogtips.com/

http://zacjohnson.com/

http://www.jimkukral.com/

http://problogger.net/

etc………………

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Comment by InfoDoorway
2008-03-27 14:56:56

I was thinking the same thing recently while browsing a bunch of blogs - some of the more popular blogs out there are the most controversial. I guess drama is good for the visitor.

 
Comment by GeologyJoe
2008-03-27 16:44:12

People must REALLY think I’m a nice guy. My readership is wicked low.

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Comment by ????? (Jason) Subscribed to comments via email
2008-03-27 16:51:21

Being nice all the time is boring, as it tends to be a very passive read. People enjoy articles that have very strong emotions. Hate and rage just happen to be two emotions that we can quickly identify with and get wrapped up in.

Although some nice bloggers can attract a solid readership and have some great discussions, they will never see the same level of community participation as the sites that are chalk full of slander, bias or misinformation :roll:

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Comment by K-IntheHouse
2008-03-27 16:53:18

Having a list of CommentLuv enabled blogs in your feed reader can help you choose where you can spend your precious time commenting when you have just 10 minutes in the day. Helps get the word out about your latest post!

45n5, you left me out? :wink:

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Comment by Ron Ripple
2008-03-27 17:48:33

I’m going to have to agree with you! I write a few tribute articles and only a few posts.. I tear into Jeff Gordan and call him a pansy wine drinker and I get a few more comments.

Keep up the great content. I love the fact that you’re out to make a few bucks but not all your posts are reviews or articles about you begging people to buy ads and crap like most other “Money Making” bloggers do.

If you’re not first your last!

 
Comment by Etienne Teo
2008-03-27 18:10:35

I think folk wisdoms that people like us tell creates co-motion and that leads to comments and questions about the truth and lie.

 
Comment by Mike Huang
2008-03-27 18:10:41

Very well said Cow. I do notice that I also receive less comments when I post about random things with no “FIGHT” in them LOL. My RSS counter continues to rise, but comments do not follow. I changed things a bit by posting less, but longer posts :)

-Mike

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Comment by Ron Ripple
2008-03-27 18:48:09

Mike, I would suggest to continue posting once or twice a day and not to write long posts.. I see a long post and pass on reading it.

Just my opinion coming from a blog reader.

 
Comment by Power of Attorney Subscribed to comments via email
2008-03-27 19:07:32

C’mon don’t you know it is the nature of man. We love to tear down, we love the controversial and damn it we luv comment luv. I zoomed you too. Bu John Cow I heard about you long ago and this is the first time on your post via bloggingzoom so all is not lost.

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Comment by Jay
2008-03-27 19:09:14

I have to give away stuff to get comments, so consider yourself lucky! lol

Jay

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Comment by Hustle Strategy Subscribed to comments via email
2008-03-27 19:17:44

People like it raw… Keep it real and let them know how you feel.

 
Comment by Mubin
2008-03-27 21:09:01

:twisted: you holding back my comments!

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Comment by John Cow
2008-03-27 21:28:15

Crap, looks like this one came through Mubin!

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Comment by Mubin
2008-03-27 21:33:15

:)

You crazy Irish

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Comment by Entrepreneur
2008-03-28 08:58:21

You don’t think the drop in visits/comments is because there are far too money making blogs out there repeating the same stuff over and over again?

Or that you’re now passe yourself?

(Last question is in keeping with nasty makes more noise theory)

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Comment by Loy Subscribed to comments via email
2008-03-28 12:14:34

This is so true - Controversial topics and posts draw more attention and comments from readers.

 
Comment by Evil Woobie
2008-03-28 18:55:00

Getting feedjit is great isn’t it? Tells you exactly who’s here.

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Comment by Jay
2008-03-29 06:43:13

Well, you can always put images of hot chicks and you’ll get TONS of comments too lol!

But you’re definitely right, I wrote about how “If You Didn’t have Entrecard, Your Blog Would Have No Visitors” and so many people agreed that Entrecard is becoming crappier… so you’re not the only one. But then again, there were those that defended it strictly because that was ALL their traffic.

Oh, but I don’t think nice bloggers finish last :P

Jay

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Comment by Kellex
2008-03-30 02:19:03

Doesn’t it feel better to be obnoxious anyway?

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Comment by Golf Books
2008-03-31 04:06:57

We just dropped Entrecard from our Flagship blog a couple of days ago. The big problem was dilution of our Adsense CTR. Sure we’ed have a little spike in page loads, looks nice on the surface but non of these visitors did anything constructive for the blog. In fact it was the opposite. By increasing page loads and geting zero adsense clicks our CTR dropped by almost a full percentage point. Oh - and no commenting from these ‘nice’ guys either. Bye Bye entrecard. (at least I made a few bucks selling my EntreCash domain).

Bruce

 
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