Million Euro Update
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Just a quick update regarding the MillionEuroWiki project. As you all know by now, we are the driving force behind MEW and we apologize to anyone that is making an issue out of the fact that we initially wrote about it in third person, which led to believe that it wasn’t ours. We hope you don’t get mad when we tell you that we’re not really cows and are in fact not even plural!
A lot of the “coverage” we found throughout the blogosphere were negative rants, people accusing us of being a scam for newbies, to con them out of their money. The same people that dedicated multiple posts on their blogs to slander the project without any constructive criticism. The same people that are saying stuff like;”JohnChow’s RSS stats dropped 1000 overnight after he promoted MEW, because everyone sees he’s a scammer!” and “Million Euro Wiki doesnt even rank in the first place for it’s own name on Google!” –after we just had launched. These are the people that think they know what they are talking about but actually don’t and mislead others by doing so. We’re not even gonna explain, again, how RSS stats work for example or why we’re not a “trusted” site yet in Google eyes, which obviously impacts SERPs.(search engine results pages)
Good intentions gone bad?
Unfortunately these rant posts are the results that are popping up on the first page on Google if you look for “Million Euro Wiki”. A great accomplishment for those that were deliberately out to get us. Maybe not as a personal issue, but more as an act of “Bitching about something because you can”. These people who act like they know what they are talking about to others and thus are creating a negative aura around MEW, they are ruining things for those of us that do believe there are benefits and profits in participating by buying a page. They are the ones that are purposely damaging the project and hurting the investments of everyone that has purchased a page. This means we will have to work even harder to make this work and make all community members a profit in due time. You don’t have to agree with the project, but we do appreciate criticism we can use to improve things.
We all need to contribute to the success.
We are going to hand out custom discount coupons to everyone that owns a page on MEW. They can use this coupon to promote the project and grow the community. Not only will the coupon give a $10 discount to whoever uses it, it will also make the page owner who owns the custom coupon a $30 affiliate earning. This way we are motivating page owners to actively promote MEW, which will again reflect on collective traffic that can be generated by doing so. They also have the opportunity to break even after they have sold just three pages. From that point onwards, all the money thats coming in through whatever way they are monetizing their page is pure profit. We all benefit.
Every butterfly was a caterpillar once.
Just to make things clear once more; The majority of the money that is generated by page sales is being reinvested in our affiliates who are generating buzz and traffic for the site and marketing campaigns. We’ve even got an official press release lined up, written up by a professional editor. (Who happens to be a reader, thanks Angel!) If you think that with 60 pages sold now that we’re sitting on a pile of cash, think again. It costs money to make the site a success for everyone. We’re lucky if we can buy a happy meal at McDonald’s right now! Well, perhaps two. All we’re asking is to give the project a chance and stop trying to kick it down while it’s still on the ground. It doesn’t do anyone any good.
Everyone that has a page and wants to become an affiliate and needs a custom discount coupon made, please email support [at] millioneurowiki.com. To buy a page, you can use our coupon “JohnCow” to get a $10.00 discount.
Update: The press release has been published on the front page of www.prweb.com. third from the top.
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Well said Mr Moo
I personally think the MEW is a great idea, this is why a bought a page (an no i am not affiliated with it in any way, before you ask).
Did you have to mention McDonald’s? Now I have to go get a Quarter Pounder for lunch. I’ll get a carton of milk with my meal as a tribute to you though.
I did read a couple of slamming posts myself. I don’t know if this project will make money or not but if I had the money, I would buy one so I’m on your side. I think people who cause trouble are people who are jealous. Sorry you’re having to deal with such immature behavior.
Hey, you could have a chance to win a million from that McDonald’s purchase…they just started Monopoly again. Haters always get the most news…negative news always spreads faster than positive news but those guys that are complaining won’t be able to keep it up for long.
I agree with James. The haters are getting a lot of news, even on this site. While those that posted in support of MEW aren’t mentioned.
Hmmm.. I guess it pays to stir up trouble. *L*
You completely ripped off someone else’s idea. Get some original ideas rather than sponging off others. You’ve even paid for fake reviews just to try and make it seem like your idea. You’re tricking people in to buying pages on your useless wiki. It doesn’t have a PR and has just 1 page indexed by google.
It’s a new low even for someone who’s whole attraction is them plagiarising someone else.
Lewis: We’d try to talk some sense into you if we thought it would help. Gee, no PR…wonder why. Sigh.
And do you complain to Yahoo, MSN, Google and all the other search engines that they completely ripped off someone elses idea?
We’re not competing with the MDW since there can only be one page owner per word. They aren’t sufffering from us being here.
Oh, and please do tell who we paid for fake reviews? We’d love to know who we owe money to.
It’s frustrating trying to get through to people like you.
Think on the positive side Mr Moo, you know your famous when all the haters come out of the woodwork !
All the popular mooney making blogs get them
so cahsquests and chow were getting 30 bucks per coupon code used. lol. wowsers. i knew there was a reason behind them saying to use their code. slick.
How much traffic does this million euro wiki gets per day?
BlogsTheme.com: Millioneurowiki.com has an Alexa traffic rank of: 110,669
“i knew there was a reason behind them saying to use their code.”
What other reason could there possibly be?
just gotaa say bob I love the idea, while I wouldn’t call it very entreprenurial, you still always havea great way of putting a spin on things, this blog and mdw being great examples. who cares if you didn’t come up with the original at least you were able to come up with a decent idea for a mooqul (like that play on words eh?)
as for the idiot asking about PR, how the hell do you think any site that is a week old will get PR?? the PR will prolly not come around till the next update.
and for only one page being indexed, that’s still kinda a big deal considering the fact that most sites get sandboxed for a long time.
hey cow any chance of getting a affiliate code without buying?
Mubin: We’ll give you a 10% discount if you buy a page and generate your coupon right after that
You can’t be an affiliate if you don’t even have the product yourself!
It’s wrong because you’re tricking people in to thinking that a page on this wiki is worth money. It’s nothing more than an extremely expensive link farm that has been dressed up to try and ride in the wake of MillionDollarWiki in an attempt for you to make a quick buck off a clueless newbie. I thought your blog is supposed to be aimed at showing people how to make money for themselves, not showing people how you can make money out of them.
You’re milking your readers (excuse the pun) who come to you to learn, not be ripped-off. The proof is in the Google results, as several people obviously agree with me.
Lewis, we’ve just given up on you. Either you’re too lazy too read or you just don’t grasp what we’ve just been telling you.
*edit* rephrased our opinions.
Lewis: I bought my page on both sites. I am not a newb. I am quite happy about it. The google results comment shows you just don’t understand google. Don’t have a cow man.
In other words, you can’t justify yourself. You’ve lost a lot of respect from people with this “stunt”. Was it really worth it?
Lewis: In other words, you’re a tool. It appears our words have no effect on you and you don’t have a clue what you’re talking about. You just keep repeating rumors that others have spread. So this is the last thing we’ll have to say to you about it all.
I don’t want to get into the [almost] flame war between my favorite milker and Lewis, here, but I have a couple of observations:
+ Every single paid-link site/business started somewhere. If one happens to think that a link is too costly or would otherwise fail to provide decent Return on Investment (ROI), that’s their decision to make.
+ The idea that John Chow promotes things with ulterior motives, namely his own profit, is not a new one. JC has never minced words regarding his profit motives. I think that’s a good portion of the reason so many people hang on his every word — the money he’s making (and bragging about). Whether or not you respect him more or less for a given program he mentions is irrelevant. He’s gonna do it and always has.
+ MillionEuroWiki IS a young site. If you believe it’s going to be big, then the price per page right now is probably a bargain. If you believe that this JohnCow guy (and the brain behind the online persona) isn’t capable of promoting MEW to the point where the current price is a bargain, then don’t buy a page. Pretty simple. I would point out that you’re reading this comment, however. What was that about the Cow’s promotional skills?
+ I happen to know, from personal experience, that The Milker accepts constructive criticism pretty well. So for the conversation to degrade to pejoratives means that someone could have probably framed their criticisms better. I’m pretty sure whatever points were trying to be made have long since been lost.
That being said, I would personally be interested in hearing/reading any criticisms in a rational fashion… it might help MEW become a better product, and it would be useful to all of us as an exercise in determining ROI for paid links.
Dammit Cow! Gimme an affiliate LINK!
I thought this argument would be over by now and it would be left up to the Cow to prove himself, I also thought I wouldn’t comment on this subject again but I guess it’s hard not to when you feel strongly about something that is still being pushed and still smells like cow dung.
I agree with Lewis here.
I still think the MEW is a waste of time and the Cow is milking his readers for short term gain.
I would love to hear from other MEW buyers who are doing well off their pages (besides John Chow (although he has been quiet enough on this) and CashQuests).
I know it’s early days and I hope you make your returns in the long run but can you provide any stats to date?
Is it really worth spending $100 on a PR0 site? Or do you think it would be better waiting until the site has some ranking atleast?
Obviously a lot of users will jump on the bandwagon now that Cow has opened up the affiliate deal to those who buy pages, although any affiliate deal I have ever signed up to before has never required that I buy into the deal first, sounds like the Cow is covering his ass here…Mubin, you are right here to look for an affiliate code without buying in yourself and in some ways I hope you get it, in other ways I hope you don’t as you could also start to convince your readers into buying into a silly concept.
So, can we have real stats on the MEW, not AWStats that count every creeper, crawler, bot, ass and so on?
Is anyone actually viewing the pages that hasn’t already bought a page and is anyone really making any profits from their page?
Are these pages being found in search engines and if they are what % of those that find the page take a paid for wiki seriously and click your links convert to buyers?
I’m sorry to say that while I still enjoy reading the Cows site that I still think he is milking those who are new to making money online with this one, but I would love to be proven wrong.
Just for the public record, I DID NOT receive a $30 affiliate commission via my coupon code but I WOULD like it changed so that I can!!
And for those complaining that it doesn’t have PR yet - maybe that’s why you can buy one for $90 - it will be worth more once it has PR! Kind of like…investing….heard of that before?
Well CashQuests, maybe you are the bigger fool that you were not getting your $30 affilaite payment, what were you getting?
As for your PR argument, how many links have you bought on PR0 sites for $90 that you consider an investment?
I’m sure I’ll find some way to make money from those posts that I wrote…..
A lifetime *link* for $90 could be great value. CashQuests.com is PR0 and I could definitely charge hundreds (maybe thousands) for a lifetime link. ….and on the MEW you get a *page* and the owner is going to use the money to promote the site. I really think you’ve missing the fact that you’ve got the page *forever*
propertyireland, ill give you this, you at least bring your argument out more rationally.
But the PR argument is null, no new site will have a PR until at least 1 pr update goes by. but the point of these wikis is not really pr, its the idea. I mean think about it MDW does not have PR yet, but it will, and so will this one.
As for the other argument regarding traffic, that is something that will increase with more buyers, because they will link to their own page and that will in turn lead to some traffic dribbling to the main page an d the other pages.
WHY THE HELL AM I WRITING ALL THIS WITHOUT A AFFILIATE CODE DAMMIT!
Mubin - You’re right….you should go buy a page and get an affiliate code. Use the coupon code ‘CashQuests’ and get $10 off your page.
mubin: LOL, good post…
but maybe the PR update has gone by and the MEW has been left with a PR0 for some reason (spam)…maybe it hasn’t, we won’t know until it increases as it is at a 0 now.
I still don’t see this argument as null though…
Also, as for the traffic argument, I agree that the traffic will increase with more buyers, but are these buyers really your intended audience?
Surely they are others that have bougth other pages and are hoping for the best?
They are not users who have found your page through the usual search methods and are interested in what you are trying to sell them.
CashQuests: the site has been registered for 1YEAR! not 20, not a life time, but 1 year! get over it, it is not a lifetime link unless it works for the Cow and the Cow continues to register it for his lifetime and I can only imagine that happening if he makes his money each and every year, not just this year!
PropertyIreland - Of course you’d register it initially for one year. The site wasn’t created, coded and launched overnight but has been planned for quite a while. But what if the coding didn’t work? What if the site couldn’t be built? You’d be crazy to initially pay for a 20-year registration until you’ve finished building the site and made sure that everything works and that you can launch it. Furthermore, it’s good business sense to use the money earned from MEW to pay for the extended registration at a later date. A 1-year initial registration is the safe and smart option.
To illustrate your stupidity - what if the Microsoft office lease expired next month. Would you uninstall every Microsoft application because you didn’t think you were going to get any more support or updates?
You are truly a time waster. While you’re picking apart every tiny detail and losing your advertising space on this site - my page is making money. Don’t expect any more responses from me to you on this issue.
CashQuest, I would be glad not to expect any more responces to my or your opinions on this issue.
Why would I expect any more when you don’t answer questions put to you on your own blog? and your posts clearly indicate that you are promoting this product because of your own commissions although they do not seem to be as high as others or as high as you would expect to get?
As for your argument about the code:
The Cow did not create it, he copied it! and it is freely available to anyone who wants it, so fair play to him if he can make a profit out of it.
But, To illustrate your stupidity (as you put it!) microsoft did loose atleast one of their major websites, look back to the millenium for evidence when they were shut down and had to pay big bucks to get back online as soon as they realised what was happening.
Besides that, we are not talking about microsoft here, where does the comaprison come from?|
If the MEW had a long term plan, surely it would be registered for more than 1 year, have you ever seen a proper business plan??
I do not see myself as a time waster, but if you see someone who points out the flaws in what he sees as a stupid idea as a time waster, that is up to you.
Maybe you would be better off listening to the criticism and working on it rather than jumping into stupid arguments.
As for me loosing advertising space on this blog, I lost nothing, I got 66 clicks from that ad I displayed over 10 days, that is 6.6 clicks a day if you can’t work it out.
I have worked in internet marketing for over 10 years and the reason I cancelled the ad was nothing to do with the click count, but was to do with the recent ethics of what is being promoted on this site.
This is the world wide web. Everyone is free to leave any webpage at any time. If there’s something you object to or find offensive, either do something about it or stop visiting the site.
I don’t find those millionaire wiki pages productive for any purpose so I don’t visit those type of sites. It’s that easy. I come visit this page because I get entertained. The End.
I am reading Lewis’ comments and i wonder why he is pissed off…. Man the internet is about survival ….. why do u you think google brought up adsense and yahoo follows and msn is also following??? Can google say its their idea???
Please get ur acts right … its all interent marketing …. U think all the top bloggers are CLEAN?? LOL
Stop worrying about the rants, and focus on getting things done or improved. It always ends up better long term.
Not everyone is going to love everything about what you say or what you do.
I know this from recent personal experiences from going on a “reality show.”
The haters expressing their opinion are for the birds and you shouldn’t let them affect your vision. Let the freaking caterpillar turn into a butterfly and tell the ones who want to bring you down to piss off. Good luck with this!
More posts from the pig please!
PropertyIreland: Just to clarify a few things, again.
-The site is very young. Stop pretending to doubt the PR being a 0 due to the site’s contents. Even this blog is still a PR0 after 3 months.
-We never showed MEW stats except for the publicly accessible Alexa stats.
-All our domains are registered for 1 year, all on auto-renewal. Why would we spend a ton of money all at once and pay 20 years in advance? That’s just silly.
-As for the code, you’re wrong again. You can’t just copy it freely because a large part has been custom coded. We paid good money to get this setup like it is.
-And you did not cancel the ad. We did, remember? It had nothing to do with ethics, we just don’t like the way you act. Putting doubt in peoples minds with twisted facts, wordplay and assumptions all the time. You’ve become a persona non grata because you can’t play nice.
We’re puzzled why we keep having to “defend” ourselves from your false accusations and twisted facts.
Just one question remains: Is this entertainment to you?
Hey Laura Martin: Aren’t you from Joel Com’s reality show, The Next Internet Millionaire?
Congrats, you’ve just been promoted to most famous cow reader!
Hey you have been nominated for Blogger Rookie of the Year at Blogging The Movie
Cash Quests, there’s no way that MEW will get a PR high enough to justify a $100 price tag, especially now google is stomping down on paid link sites, which is what it essentially is. Cow is misleading people, but then again so does MDW so they’re as bad as each other.
Lewis: Somebody should really tell you not to talk about things you have no clue about. Makes you look silly.
Cow cow cow, you are my friend…..
greetings from elgUU
Is different
My damn affiliate CODE!!!!!
Hey Cow, as the most famous cow reader I think you should get Mubin his affiliate code and instead of asking people to donate milk money, why don’t you ask for salt lick money
Cows drinking milk? Sounds a bit cannibal, incestuous like.. Oh and maybe, just maybe, I’ll give you my Shoemoney shirt haha
Laura, you give us your Shoemoney shirt and we’ll give Mubin his affiliate code. Deal?
That would mean someone besides me gets a code and I’m stuck without a shirt…
Hmm.. Let me think this over..
Oooh, you’re good. No wonder you made the show. Ok, well give you an affiliate code too.
COW: in responce to “you did not cancel the ad. We did, remember?”
please read over your posts. You offered a refund & I accepted, I actually asked for it in the end.
as for your other comments, see below.
-We never showed MEW stats except for the publicly accessible Alexa stats.
fair enough, why not show proper tracking stats now?
-All our domains are registered for 1 year, all on auto-renewal. Why would we spend a ton of money all at once and pay 20 years in advance? That’s just silly.
In my experience, domains cost more if you register them year by year, If you are serious about an idea, why opt for the more costly option?
-As for the code, you’re wrong again. You can’t just copy it freely because a large part has been custom coded. We paid good money to get this setup like it is.
In my own opinion, if you paid to get the MEW to look like it is now, you wasted your money, but that is just my opinion, not something to bitch about…
-Putting doubt in peoples minds with twisted facts, wordplay and assumptions all the time. You’ve become a persona non grata because you can’t play nice.
What twisted facts have I brought up? & as for not playing nice??? are we all expected to lick up your cow dung because we read your blog? or are we entitled to our own objective opinions?
-We’re puzzled why we keep having to “defend” ourselves from your false accusations and twisted facts.
again, what false accusations are you talking about?
-Just one question remains: Is this entertainment to you?
Yep, it is, seeing anyone trying to dupe their readers is entertainment….
And, p.s. delighted to see Laura onboard here, Laura, you are hot!
Does anyone actually watch The Next Internet Millionaire?
Thanks for the backup Laura, C’mon now COw you know you have to give me an affiliate code now! I mean even someone famous has asked you to do it for me. If you don’t do it now, I think I and the rest of your readers will take this as insult to all people that hate pedophiles!
As for propertyireland, I think he is now just rephrasing your answers to raise more doubt, I have lost my respect for him, his first round of questions were reasonable in the way that they looked like genuine concerns.
Now it seems he is just spiteful.
SO Mubin and I both get codes, awesome!
PropertyIreland- you are sweet, to me atleast, so thank you!
Angel- I’m not sure if people here are following the show, but I have a feeling a few prolly just went to check it out cause of the comments
Now, where’s that shirt Laura
I don’t understand who Mubin is. Is he famous too?
Angel, if you have to ask about my celebrity status…
I’ve never seen so much controversy from a new site…I mean only a week and people are up in arms over PR? My blog has been up since May and is still a PR0 and my other blog has been up for over a year and is only a PR3. My web design company has been online since 2001 and is only a PR3…length of time is only part of how Google ranks PR so let’s just drop that argument.
As for $100 being expensive…that’s a relative point of view. If you don’t make enough for $100 to be considered an investment then you shouldn’t be doing anything on the internet. I bet loads of people spend $100 a month on lattes at Starbucks. So it’s all perspective. If you don’t think it’s a good investment, then don’t buy it. It doesn’t give you the right to slander and libel. In fact, if I were JC I would be discussing things with a lawyer because you haters are potentially damaging his business by spreading rumors and lies.
Personally, it was a great investment. It paid off for me after the 50th page sold…$90 for an iPod Touch. I think JC got the short end of the stick there. Just my .02
who mubin is…i am going to give you a brief history…anyway what the heck, it is best you visit his site to know what i mean..
I will raise some valid points here in the defense of Mr Cow.
Making a successful site does cost ALOT of money. I’d say a large part of Mr Cow’s creativeness “IS” unique. He didn’t rip off an idea. He’s doing what many others have done.. Follow a successful trend and try and improve. I can attest to the cost of making a site successful as we’re one of the large sites Mr Cow is advertising on and we’re not going to say we’re gouging Mr Cow but he does spend ALOT of money to make his ideas bigger and he does care about his projects along with his readerbase. Mr Cow believes in what he’s saying and he’s some wisdom about him. We’ve had many lengthy discussions about viability, and seo. He know’s his marketing. You cannot butcher a cow for having some brains to go along with the cud and tail.
Million Euro Wiki is as viable a marketing tool as any other traffic site and should not be underlooked as a viable marketing tool for those purchasing the pages. The web is changing. So is marketing.
Thanks for listening to our view.
http://www.Suckered.Us
Keep up the good work Mr Cow!
PS give us an affiliate code to attach to that ad!
1 Million readers per month and 20,000,000 pageviews per month might make us some mooooney![]()