Comments on: How to Win Friends and Get Around Their Pride - Day 16 of COWpetition http://www.johncow.com/how-to-win-friends-and-get-around-their-pride-day-16-of-cowpetition/ Making Money Online Blogging by Milking the Internet! Fri, 21 Nov 2008 06:45:36 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Kevin Puls http://www.johncow.com/how-to-win-friends-and-get-around-their-pride-day-16-of-cowpetition/#comment-20824 Kevin Puls Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:15:30 +0000 http://www.johncow.com/?p=1064#comment-20824 Like my previous post, I have a project/product that I am working on and have made in-roads networking with great folks that I met at Ken McArthur's JV Alert Live! event. Gotta name drop, because he is a such a great guy. Truely knows the meaning of reciprocity. He's living proof that there are good folks in this biz! Check out his book here: http://theimpactfactor.net?id=475 Once completed, I will work with the pros I met and see how we can all benefit from JV-ing together. Like my previous post, I have a project/product that I am working on and have made in-roads networking with great folks that I met at Ken McArthur’s JV Alert Live! event. Gotta name drop, because he is a such a great guy. Truely knows the meaning of reciprocity. He’s living proof that there are good folks in this biz! Check out his book here: http://theimpactfactor.net?id=475

Once completed, I will work with the pros I met and see how we can all benefit from JV-ing together.

]]> By: Making Money Online by Turning Time Into Cash - The Net Fool dot com http://www.johncow.com/how-to-win-friends-and-get-around-their-pride-day-16-of-cowpetition/#comment-19376 Making Money Online by Turning Time Into Cash - The Net Fool dot com Tue, 17 Jun 2008 15:37:56 +0000 http://www.johncow.com/?p=1064#comment-19376 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] online” niche has been JohnCow.com, and yesterday he published an interesting post about winning friends online. Essentially, the post recommended that up and coming bloggers “brown nose” to [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> Kramer auto Pingback[...] online” niche has been JohnCow.com, and yesterday he published an interesting post about winning friends online. Essentially, the post recommended that up and coming bloggers “brown nose” to [...]

]]> By: Vabulous http://www.johncow.com/how-to-win-friends-and-get-around-their-pride-day-16-of-cowpetition/#comment-19361 Vabulous Tue, 17 Jun 2008 08:19:52 +0000 http://www.johncow.com/?p=1064#comment-19361 Thank you for this post, I learned a new vocabulary today: brown nose. I even blogged about it :p Back on topic: I think brown nosing only works if you already have something to bring to the table. Maybe you cannot offer pure 50-50 WIN-WIN arrangement. But with some flattery you can offer 30-70 arrangement and it might get accepted, simply because, as John said, our Pride is a terrible thing :wink: Vabulouss last blog post..<a href="http://vabulous.com/2008/06/17/the-brown-nose/" rel="nofollow">The Brown Nose</a> Thank you for this post, I learned a new vocabulary today: brown nose. I even blogged about it :p

Back on topic: I think brown nosing only works if you already have something to bring to the table. Maybe you cannot offer pure 50-50 WIN-WIN arrangement. But with some flattery you can offer 30-70 arrangement and it might get accepted, simply because, as John said, our Pride is a terrible thing :wink:

Vabulouss last blog post..The Brown Nose

]]> By: The Brown Nose - Vabulous http://www.johncow.com/how-to-win-friends-and-get-around-their-pride-day-16-of-cowpetition/#comment-19360 The Brown Nose - Vabulous Tue, 17 Jun 2008 08:02:23 +0000 http://www.johncow.com/?p=1064#comment-19360 [...] encountered the “brown nose” phrase on John Cow and The Net [...] [...] encountered the “brown nose” phrase on John Cow and The Net [...]

]]> By: Standing Above the Crowd to Find JV Partners - Day 17 COWPetition | John Cow dot Com http://www.johncow.com/how-to-win-friends-and-get-around-their-pride-day-16-of-cowpetition/#comment-19301 Standing Above the Crowd to Find JV Partners - Day 17 COWPetition | John Cow dot Com Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:22:24 +0000 http://www.johncow.com/?p=1064#comment-19301 [...] contest. You could win OVER$27000 in Prizes! A couple days ago we posted about the idea of “brown nosing” to get friends (JV Partners) and today we want to expand on that by providing you some real [...] [...] contest. You could win OVER$27000 in Prizes! A couple days ago we posted about the idea of “brown nosing” to get friends (JV Partners) and today we want to expand on that by providing you some real [...]

]]> By: John Cow dot Com - MyBlogLog http://www.johncow.com/how-to-win-friends-and-get-around-their-pride-day-16-of-cowpetition/#comment-19300 John Cow dot Com - MyBlogLog Sat, 14 Jun 2008 05:59:47 +0000 http://www.johncow.com/?p=1064#comment-19300 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] to Google Latest Content How to Win Friends and Get Around Their Pride - Day 16 of COWpetition - 2 days ago We are going to let you in on a little secret here… this was a huge part of how [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> Kramer auto Pingback[...] to Google Latest Content How to Win Friends and Get Around Their Pride - Day 16 of COWpetition - 2 days ago We are going to let you in on a little secret here… this was a huge part of how [...]

]]> By: Win Friends and Clients for Joint Ventures | Don't Be A Brown-Noser! | The Net Fool http://www.johncow.com/how-to-win-friends-and-get-around-their-pride-day-16-of-cowpetition/#comment-19289 Win Friends and Clients for Joint Ventures | Don't Be A Brown-Noser! | The Net Fool Fri, 13 Jun 2008 19:36:07 +0000 http://www.johncow.com/?p=1064#comment-19289 [...] online” niche has been JohnCow.com, and yesterday he published an interesting post about winning friends online. Essentially, the post recommended that up and coming bloggers “brown nose” to [...] [...] online” niche has been JohnCow.com, and yesterday he published an interesting post about winning friends online. Essentially, the post recommended that up and coming bloggers “brown nose” to [...]

]]> By: MES http://www.johncow.com/how-to-win-friends-and-get-around-their-pride-day-16-of-cowpetition/#comment-19273 MES Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:55:44 +0000 http://www.johncow.com/?p=1064#comment-19273 Thanks a lot John. I remember what the Lord Jesus taught: "It's better to give than to receive." In fact, we experience that more things we can give, more things we receive. You have shared to us many things John, and we are your fans reply each of your post gladly and link to your homepage with joy. It's not caused you offer us some big prizes, but because we love you and we want to have a good relationship with you.... Hope you don't mind to remember us in your heart ( and to exchange link with us too.. ehm ) .... :) MESs last blog post..<a href="http://globalwarmingawareness2007-mes.com/2008/06/12/a-case-study-for-making-money-online/" rel="nofollow">A case study for Making Money Online</a> Thanks a lot John.

I remember what the Lord Jesus taught: “It’s better to give than to receive.”

In fact, we experience that more things we can give, more things we receive.

You have shared to us many things John, and we are your fans reply each of your post gladly and link to your homepage with joy. It’s not caused you offer us some big prizes, but because we love you and we want to have a good relationship with you….

Hope you don’t mind to remember us in your heart ( and to exchange link with us too.. ehm ) …. :)

MESs last blog post..A case study for Making Money Online

]]> By: Liam http://www.johncow.com/how-to-win-friends-and-get-around-their-pride-day-16-of-cowpetition/#comment-19270 Liam Fri, 13 Jun 2008 07:31:13 +0000 http://www.johncow.com/?p=1064#comment-19270 Great post, but I have a slightly different viewpoint on a couple of points. Creating a win-win scenario is something you should be proud of - there is absolutely no reason to lose any of your own pride to do this. It doesn't have to involve brown nosing either. A true win-win should be able to stand on it's own merits. And you can simply point out the things you do like about the site and neglect to mention the bits you don't. Maybe with this I'm being a little pedantic, something tells me Mr. Cow used this phrase in order to create a more compelling post - great marketing :wink: Great post, but I have a slightly different viewpoint on a couple of points.

Creating a win-win scenario is something you should be proud of - there is absolutely no reason to lose any of your own pride to do this.

It doesn’t have to involve brown nosing either. A true win-win should be able to stand on it’s own merits. And you can simply point out the things you do like about the site and neglect to mention the bits you don’t.

Maybe with this I’m being a little pedantic, something tells me Mr. Cow used this phrase in order to create a more compelling post - great marketing :wink:

]]> By: Mr. Javo http://www.johncow.com/how-to-win-friends-and-get-around-their-pride-day-16-of-cowpetition/#comment-19260 Mr. Javo Fri, 13 Jun 2008 02:00:03 +0000 http://www.johncow.com/?p=1064#comment-19260 Hey Cow, I agree with this attitude. Although, I still waiting a reply of my email :smile: . Nice and very informative post. Mr. Javos last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/MrJavo/~3/309276130/" rel="nofollow">Under What Name Is Best To Leave Comments In Other Blogs?</a> Hey Cow, I agree with this attitude. Although, I still waiting a reply of my email :smile: .

Nice and very informative post.

Mr. Javos last blog post..Under What Name Is Best To Leave Comments In Other Blogs?

]]> By: John Cow http://www.johncow.com/how-to-win-friends-and-get-around-their-pride-day-16-of-cowpetition/#comment-19259 John Cow Fri, 13 Jun 2008 01:28:25 +0000 http://www.johncow.com/?p=1064#comment-19259 We think you and Jim are missing the point. It is not a matter of being fake but it is a matter of looking at it from the perspective of how to give the person you want something from the greater share. Relationships are not always a 50/50 split... instead it is the end result that matters. If you refuse to do this because you feel it is beneath you and you do not think others deserve to get a bigger chunk of the prize then ask yourself why you feel that way? We are not saying you you do this forever, but if you want to get jv parnters to help you when you are starting out you need to make it worth thier while and in fact in our post we mentioned that it will not be long after that you will be able to offer equal trades. We think this is proof of what we were saying that we let our selfish pride get in the way and hate to ever have to give ourself a lesser piece of the pie. We think you and Jim are missing the point.

It is not a matter of being fake but it is a matter of looking at it from the perspective of how to give the person you want something from the greater share.

Relationships are not always a 50/50 split… instead it is the end result that matters. If you refuse to do this because you feel it is beneath you and you do not think others deserve to get a bigger chunk of the prize then ask yourself why you feel that way? We are not saying you you do this forever, but if you want to get jv parnters to help you when you are starting out you need to make it worth thier while and in fact in our post we mentioned that it will not be long after that you will be able to offer equal trades.

We think this is proof of what we were saying that we let our selfish pride get in the way and hate to ever have to give ourself a lesser piece of the pie.

]]> By: Winning Startups http://www.johncow.com/how-to-win-friends-and-get-around-their-pride-day-16-of-cowpetition/#comment-19255 Winning Startups Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:30:52 +0000 http://www.johncow.com/?p=1064#comment-19255 I'm not to the point yet where people are sucking up to me, but when I do get there, I can spot a smoozer a mile away and will want no part of that. Winning Startupss last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/BusinessIdeasThatHaveWorked/~3/310243635/list-of-blog-contests-to-enter.html" rel="nofollow">List of Blog Contests to enter</a> I’m not to the point yet where people are sucking up to me, but when I do get there, I can spot a smoozer a mile away and will want no part of that.

Winning Startupss last blog post..List of Blog Contests to enter

]]> By: Jim http://www.johncow.com/how-to-win-friends-and-get-around-their-pride-day-16-of-cowpetition/#comment-19254 Jim Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:02:51 +0000 http://www.johncow.com/?p=1064#comment-19254 I routinely turn away brown-nosers (or k.a.'s which is what I would call them :razz: )... just because I hate dealing with fake people. While I think you can win some cheap friends by sucking up to the big guys, you need to know where to stop. At some point, you need to establish confidence and authority, or people won't have any respect for you. I take a different approach and try to be as authoritative as possible from the get-go, despite the fact that it may be undeserved, because I like people understanding that I mean business. :???: Jims last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/thenetfool/~3/309949652/" rel="nofollow">Creating A Blog - Part Six: Optimizing Your Blog for Search Engines and More</a> I routinely turn away brown-nosers (or k.a.’s which is what I would call them :razz: )… just because I hate dealing with fake people. While I think you can win some cheap friends by sucking up to the big guys, you need to know where to stop. At some point, you need to establish confidence and authority, or people won’t have any respect for you. I take a different approach and try to be as authoritative as possible from the get-go, despite the fact that it may be undeserved, because I like people understanding that I mean business. :???:

Jims last blog post..Creating A Blog - Part Six: Optimizing Your Blog for Search Engines and More

]]> By: Vicki Flaugher http://www.johncow.com/how-to-win-friends-and-get-around-their-pride-day-16-of-cowpetition/#comment-19252 Vicki Flaugher Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:26:43 +0000 http://www.johncow.com/?p=1064#comment-19252 John, Great advice. I am often surprised how often people respond so generously to sincere appreciation. My SmartWoman post today is an interview with the founder of a very successful entrepreneur resource website (approx. 10K uniques per day) and all I really had to do was ask. I had added content on his blog, recommended his site, and he immediately said yes to my request when I asked him for an interview. He told me he is even going to link the interview page to his media/promo page so others can check it out too. Sweet! Traffic galore! This technique doesn't work if you don't mean it so I just steer clear of people I don't click with (pretty much no matter how important or big they are---I have a strict no a_ _ hole policy). I work on getting to know the ones I jive with best and that has been successful. I would encourage everyone to give it a whirl. It really is exciting to get a phone call or email from one of your heroes! :-) Together, we are stronger. Vicki Flaugher, the original SmartWoman Vicki Flaughers last blog post..<a href="http://smartwomanguides.com/2008/06/12/smartwoman-exclusive-evan-carmichael-interview/" rel="nofollow">SmartWoman Exclusive: Evan Carmichael Interview</a> John,

Great advice. I am often surprised how often people respond so generously to sincere appreciation. My SmartWoman post today is an interview with the founder of a very successful entrepreneur resource website (approx. 10K uniques per day) and all I really had to do was ask. I had added content on his blog, recommended his site, and he immediately said yes to my request when I asked him for an interview. He told me he is even going to link the interview page to his media/promo page so others can check it out too. Sweet! traffic galore!

This technique doesn’t work if you don’t mean it so I just steer clear of people I don’t click with (pretty much no matter how important or big they are—I have a strict no a_ _ hole policy). I work on getting to know the ones I jive with best and that has been successful. I would encourage everyone to give it a whirl. It really is exciting to get a phone call or email from one of your heroes! :-)

Together, we are stronger.

Vicki Flaugher, the original SmartWoman

Vicki Flaughers last blog post..SmartWoman Exclusive: Evan Carmichael Interview

]]> By: John Cow http://www.johncow.com/how-to-win-friends-and-get-around-their-pride-day-16-of-cowpetition/#comment-19242 John Cow Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:42:47 +0000 http://www.johncow.com/?p=1064#comment-19242 Excellent advice, show the person that you offer value to the market... thanks Forest! Excellent advice, show the person that you offer value to the market… thanks Forest!

]]> By: Audiobooks http://www.johncow.com/how-to-win-friends-and-get-around-their-pride-day-16-of-cowpetition/#comment-19241 Audiobooks Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:23:25 +0000 http://www.johncow.com/?p=1064#comment-19241 I'm looking forward to your next post. It's always good to learn a new trick from the experts in the marketing field... :lol: I’m looking forward to your next post. It’s always good to learn a new trick from the experts in the marketing field… :lol:

]]> By: Forest http://www.johncow.com/how-to-win-friends-and-get-around-their-pride-day-16-of-cowpetition/#comment-19240 Forest Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:05:55 +0000 http://www.johncow.com/?p=1064#comment-19240 Mr Cow, Nice post, I think you also have to look at the long term aspect too, if you are a fan then you will keep reading and commenting. There is no harm in dropping a link to show your newest posts or offers here and there. Once that webmaster has a taste for your site and appreciates your visits they are often much more inclined to help push your site by exchanging a link and in some cases even plugging you for free. It's not very quick but it has definitely helped me out (slowly but surely). Another thing you could do is.... get a guest post on another blog and then mention the blogger that you are brown nosing in that post. Forests last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/therandomforest/tens/~3/309811969/" rel="nofollow">Darren Rowse Hates Cats… But Full Tilt loves them…</a> Mr Cow,

Nice post, I think you also have to look at the long term aspect too, if you are a fan then you will keep reading and commenting. There is no harm in dropping a link to show your newest posts or offers here and there.

Once that webmaster has a taste for your site and appreciates your visits they are often much more inclined to help push your site by exchanging a link and in some cases even plugging you for free.

It’s not very quick but it has definitely helped me out (slowly but surely).

Another thing you could do is…. get a guest post on another blog and then mention the blogger that you are brown nosing in that post.

Forests last blog post..Darren Rowse Hates Cats… But Full Tilt loves them…

]]> By: Rajaie AlKorani http://www.johncow.com/how-to-win-friends-and-get-around-their-pride-day-16-of-cowpetition/#comment-19238 Rajaie AlKorani Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:33:05 +0000 http://www.johncow.com/?p=1064#comment-19238 I'll be looking forward to tomorrows post :twisted: Rajaie AlKoranis last blog post..<a href="http://www.rajaietalks.com/everyone-makes-mistakes-no-exceptions" rel="nofollow">Everyone Makes Mistakes, No Exceptions</a> I’ll be looking forward to tomorrows post :twisted:

Rajaie AlKoranis last blog post..Everyone Makes Mistakes, No Exceptions

]]> By: Helping make money online http://www.johncow.com/how-to-win-friends-and-get-around-their-pride-day-16-of-cowpetition/#comment-19419 Helping make money online Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.johncow.com/?p=1064#comment-19419 <!--%kramer-pre%-->A couple days ago we posted about the idea of “brown nosing” to get friends (JV Partners) and today we want to expand on that by providing you some real life scenarios of what we truly meant by that and how we were able to gain some wicked exposure for our<!--%kramer-post%--> links from TechnoratiA couple days ago we posted about the idea of “brown nosing” to get friends (JV Partners) and today we want to expand on that by providing you some real life scenarios of what we truly meant by that and how we were able to gain some wicked exposure for our

]]> By: The Blue Planet http://www.johncow.com/how-to-win-friends-and-get-around-their-pride-day-16-of-cowpetition/#comment-19420 The Blue Planet Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.johncow.com/?p=1064#comment-19420 <!--%kramer-pre%-->brown nosing<!--%kramer-post%--> links from Technoratibrown nosing

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