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		<title>By: Mitchell Blatt, JSB</title>
		<link>http://www.johncow.com/cow-question-is-it-ethical-is-it-right/#comment-30559</link>
		<dc:creator>Mitchell Blatt, JSB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 04:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be pretty shady, but it&#039;s up to you if you want to do it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Just don&#039;t say the mailing list is something it&#039;s not.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mitchell Blatt, JSBs last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://juicedsportsblog.com/2008/05/juiced-links-525.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Juiced Links - 5/25&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be pretty shady, but it&#39;s up to you if you want to do it.</p>
<p>Just don&#39;t say the mailing list is something it&#39;s not.</p>
<p>Mitchell Blatt, JSBs last blog post..<a href="http://juicedsportsblog.com/2008/05/juiced-links-525.html">Juiced Links &#8211; 5/25</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://www.johncow.com/cow-question-is-it-ethical-is-it-right/#comment-18595</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 19:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The danger in this kind of crap is not only to unwary buyers, but to other internet marketers. After being in this game for a few years, I see it getting worse and worse as far as buyer trust these greedy type marketers destroy. Some even gloat in it. I could write a book on the various scams run by some of the biggest marketers. It&#039;s getting OLD! Karma bites...eventually.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The danger in this kind of crap is not only to unwary buyers, but to other internet marketers. After being in this game for a few years, I see it getting worse and worse as far as buyer trust these greedy type marketers destroy. Some even gloat in it. I could write a book on the various scams run by some of the biggest marketers. It&#8217;s getting OLD! Karma bites&#8230;eventually.</p>
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		<title>By: Online Communities</title>
		<link>http://www.johncow.com/cow-question-is-it-ethical-is-it-right/#comment-18517</link>
		<dc:creator>Online Communities</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 06:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There you go, I think you answered the question for yourself in that comment alone!

- Martin Reed

Online Communitiess last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/communityspark/~3/299953621/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Be more productive by recognising the blogging seesaw&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There you go, I think you answered the question for yourself in that comment alone!</p>
<p>- Martin Reed</p>
<p>Online Communitiess last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/communityspark/~3/299953621/">Be more productive by recognising the blogging seesaw</a></p>
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		<title>By: Barbara Ling</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barbara Ling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 19:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m from the old school.

I don&#039;t buy mailing lists, period.  If I haven&#039;t gathered the names/addresses myself via optin ARs, I have no guarantee that the receivers WANT to get my information.

&#039;course, even with optin subscribers, that&#039;s no guarantee either....but your chances of being labeled a spammer and getting ISP complaints are far less if they&#039;ve double-opted into your own network.

I consider the risks of buying a list to be too much for &#039;lil &#039;ole me.

Data points,

Barbara

Barbara Lings last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.barbaraling.com/insights/when-life-bruises-you-decorate-it-with-a-happy-face-and-rebound/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;When life bruises you, decorate it with a happy face and rebound&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m from the old school.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t buy mailing lists, period.  If I haven&#8217;t gathered the names/addresses myself via optin ARs, I have no guarantee that the receivers WANT to get my information.</p>
<p>&#8216;course, even with optin subscribers, that&#8217;s no guarantee either&#8230;.but your chances of being labeled a spammer and getting ISP complaints are far less if they&#8217;ve double-opted into your own network.</p>
<p>I consider the risks of buying a list to be too much for &#8216;lil &#8216;ole me.</p>
<p>Data points,</p>
<p>Barbara</p>
<p>Barbara Lings last blog post..<a href="http://www.barbaraling.com/insights/when-life-bruises-you-decorate-it-with-a-happy-face-and-rebound/">When life bruises you, decorate it with a happy face and rebound</a></p>
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		<title>By: Big Ben Patton</title>
		<link>http://www.johncow.com/cow-question-is-it-ethical-is-it-right/#comment-18486</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Ben Patton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 18:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While some business people see ethics as something that keeps you from making your full potential in earnings I see it as what it truly is. Honesty and Integrity in Business. Without ethics it turns into a world of black hat scam artists conning each other for money. While the pyramid schemes of past come to mind they did not really hurt anyone per say but were ultimately very detrimental to many peoples making money at home persona or business. For me I will always disclose any conflicts of interest and walk the white hat line. I have always tried to be completely honest in the hopes that while it may not be adventagious at the time it would ultimately earn me respect for having the fortitude to be that way.

While I wish I could say that being honest is the most profitable, sometimes its not; However, I will remain on this course because it is who I am. To answer the question directly I think it would be unethical cut and dry to build a site hold a content of unbelievable magnitude with prizes or content completely unrelated to the site and then flip the site to someone without informing them of what type of readers they will be getting. I know this happens all the time as its part of the make money quick routine that many internet marketers use to earn cash. I guess this takes us back to business 101 &quot;Buyer Beware&quot; A smart shopper will know to ask directly and will know what the correct response is or if something fishy is going on.

Big Ben Pattons last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.benjaminpatton.com/is-windows-7-already-a-threat-to-vista/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Is Windows 7 Already A Threat To Vista?&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While some business people see ethics as something that keeps you from making your full potential in earnings I see it as what it truly is. Honesty and Integrity in Business. Without ethics it turns into a world of black hat scam artists conning each other for money. While the pyramid schemes of past come to mind they did not really hurt anyone per say but were ultimately very detrimental to many peoples making money at home persona or business. For me I will always disclose any conflicts of interest and walk the white hat line. I have always tried to be completely honest in the hopes that while it may not be adventagious at the time it would ultimately earn me respect for having the fortitude to be that way.</p>
<p>While I wish I could say that being honest is the most profitable, sometimes its not; However, I will remain on this course because it is who I am. To answer the question directly I think it would be unethical cut and dry to build a site hold a content of unbelievable magnitude with prizes or content completely unrelated to the site and then flip the site to someone without informing them of what type of readers they will be getting. I know this happens all the time as its part of the make money quick routine that many internet marketers use to earn cash. I guess this takes us back to business 101 &#8220;Buyer Beware&#8221; A smart shopper will know to ask directly and will know what the correct response is or if something fishy is going on.</p>
<p>Big Ben Pattons last blog post..<a href="http://www.benjaminpatton.com/is-windows-7-already-a-threat-to-vista/">Is Windows 7 Already A Threat To Vista?</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas James</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicholas James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 18:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What don&#039;t you agree with?

Nicholas Jamess last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/Profitbaron/~3/299947051/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Contest Where Everyone Is A Winner! *&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What don&#8217;t you agree with?</p>
<p>Nicholas Jamess last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/Profitbaron/~3/299947051/">The Contest Where Everyone Is A Winner! *</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas James</title>
		<link>http://www.johncow.com/cow-question-is-it-ethical-is-it-right/#comment-18484</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 18:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think both buyer and seller are responsible personally.

Nicholas Jamess last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/Profitbaron/~3/299947051/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Contest Where Everyone Is A Winner! *&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think both buyer and seller are responsible personally.</p>
<p>Nicholas Jamess last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/Profitbaron/~3/299947051/">The Contest Where Everyone Is A Winner! *</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas James</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicholas James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 18:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was no reference to anyone doing this...its just something to discuss on the blog with the community ;)

Nicholas Jamess last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/Profitbaron/~3/299947051/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Contest Where Everyone Is A Winner! *&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was no reference to anyone doing this&#8230;its just something to discuss on the blog with the community <img src='http://www.johncow.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Nicholas Jamess last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/Profitbaron/~3/299947051/">The Contest Where Everyone Is A Winner! *</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas James</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicholas James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 18:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed completely on these points.

As a buyer, i would like to know how the list was compiled and some information behind hit because, otherwise its pointless to use and you might not be able to use it too.

Nicholas Jamess last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/Profitbaron/~3/299947051/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Contest Where Everyone Is A Winner! *&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed completely on these points.</p>
<p>As a buyer, i would like to know how the list was compiled and some information behind hit because, otherwise its pointless to use and you might not be able to use it too.</p>
<p>Nicholas Jamess last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/Profitbaron/~3/299947051/">The Contest Where Everyone Is A Winner! *</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas James</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicholas James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 17:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic comment summed up the views of everyone here!

I agree with this!

Nicholas Jamess last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/Profitbaron/~3/299947051/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Contest Where Everyone Is A Winner! *&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic comment summed up the views of everyone here!</p>
<p>I agree with this!</p>
<p>Nicholas Jamess last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/Profitbaron/~3/299947051/">The Contest Where Everyone Is A Winner! *</a></p>
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		<title>By: Politcial Disgust</title>
		<link>http://www.johncow.com/cow-question-is-it-ethical-is-it-right/#comment-18479</link>
		<dc:creator>Politcial Disgust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 17:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would think that someone buying ANYTHING would study closely the business/site/blog and review all of these factors BEFORE buying. If concerned you could easily write up a contingency agreement that returns the money to the purchaser if there is proof of misleading information. this would have to be clearly written up in advance and agreed upon by both parties. the sale money held in escrow for X amount of time and until everything could be verified.

Off line long legal contracts are written to protect both buyer and seller of businesses. why would it be any different online, unless you are are &quot;rolling the dice&quot; and then it is on you to take the chance and live with the consequences.....

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Political Disgust

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would think that someone buying ANYTHING would study closely the business/site/blog and review all of these factors BEFORE buying. If concerned you could easily write up a contingency agreement that returns the money to the purchaser if there is proof of misleading information. this would have to be clearly written up in advance and agreed upon by both parties. the sale money held in escrow for X amount of time and until everything could be verified.</p>
<p>Off line long legal contracts are written to protect both buyer and seller of businesses. why would it be any different online, unless you are are &#8220;rolling the dice&#8221; and then it is on you to take the chance and live with the consequences&#8230;..</p>
<p>&#8212;<br />
Political Disgust</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://www.johncow.com/cow-question-is-it-ethical-is-it-right/#comment-18477</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 16:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aaron, thanks for the comment. I definitely would take responsibility for that.
Please be aware that I would not &quot;label&quot; or &quot;blame&quot; the seller in the forum. But I would post the facts (including that I did not ask). And I would point a forum moderator to that post and leave it at that.
For me that&#039;s totally fair game as long as I stick with the facts and don&#039;t spin anything (or not disclose the fact that I didn&#039;t ask...).

It&#039;s like selling fake PR5 domains or selling domains like M0NEY.com (number zero instead of letter o without pointing that out and doing it with a font were you can&#039;t tell by just looking). Should the buyer have done due diligence? Yes! Is he responsible for not having done that? Yes! But to me, just because you can trick people doesn&#039;t mean you should. And if someone doesn&#039;t mind doing that kind of thing, he/she also has to be able to take the heat that comes with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaron, thanks for the comment. I definitely would take responsibility for that.<br />
Please be aware that I would not &#8220;label&#8221; or &#8220;blame&#8221; the seller in the forum. But I would post the facts (including that I did not ask). And I would point a forum moderator to that post and leave it at that.<br />
For me that&#8217;s totally fair game as long as I stick with the facts and don&#8217;t spin anything (or not disclose the fact that I didn&#8217;t ask&#8230;).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like selling fake PR5 domains or selling domains like M0NEY.com (number zero instead of letter o without pointing that out and doing it with a font were you can&#8217;t tell by just looking). Should the buyer have done due diligence? Yes! Is he responsible for not having done that? Yes! But to me, just because you can trick people doesn&#8217;t mean you should. And if someone doesn&#8217;t mind doing that kind of thing, he/she also has to be able to take the heat that comes with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron at FullTiltBlogging.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron at FullTiltBlogging.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 15:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys and gals can tell by the tone of my responses here that I would not intentionally mislead a buyer--nor would I encourage anyone else to do so.

When I read the initial question my response was simple:  There are many reasons why people join a list, and sometimes a website owner may do a promotion that has limited bearing on the value of that list to the niche.

I don&#039;t hear anyone complaining about the contest between Cow and Conn artificially creating all sorts of skewed statistics.  Not just the obvious visits and subscribers, but less obvious things like incoming links.  Truthfully there is no way a new owner can have any idea how much either site will be worth once the contest is over even with both site owners telling potential buyers of everything they are aware.

Does that make Cow and Conn evil?

I think the labels have to go.  People are very rarely &quot;good&quot; or &quot;evil&quot; nor are their intentions completely one or the other.  But in my experience most of the people I have done business with online tend toward the good.  I cringe when they make a mistake and are suddenly branded as evil.

Black and white thinking is rarely correct and I think we need to be cautious when we employ it.  The next person tarred and feathered might be us.

Aaron at FullTiltBlogging.coms last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fulltiltblogging.com/blog/2008/05/28/internet-millionaire-confessions/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Internet Millionaire Confessions&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys and gals can tell by the tone of my responses here that I would not intentionally mislead a buyer&#8211;nor would I encourage anyone else to do so.</p>
<p>When I read the initial question my response was simple:  There are many reasons why people join a list, and sometimes a website owner may do a promotion that has limited bearing on the value of that list to the niche.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t hear anyone complaining about the contest between Cow and Conn artificially creating all sorts of skewed statistics.  Not just the obvious visits and subscribers, but less obvious things like incoming links.  Truthfully there is no way a new owner can have any idea how much either site will be worth once the contest is over even with both site owners telling potential buyers of everything they are aware.</p>
<p>Does that make Cow and Conn evil?</p>
<p>I think the labels have to go.  People are very rarely &#8220;good&#8221; or &#8220;evil&#8221; nor are their intentions completely one or the other.  But in my experience most of the people I have done business with online tend toward the good.  I cringe when they make a mistake and are suddenly branded as evil.</p>
<p>Black and white thinking is rarely correct and I think we need to be cautious when we employ it.  The next person tarred and feathered might be us.</p>
<p>Aaron at FullTiltBlogging.coms last blog post..<a href="http://www.fulltiltblogging.com/blog/2008/05/28/internet-millionaire-confessions/">Internet Millionaire Confessions</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 14:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This is one of those fields were we can’t be honest about anything. We just have to be politically correct.&quot;

Only if you want to look just like everyone else.  Maintaining your integrity and doing Internet Marketing the way *you* think it ought to be done is what will differentiate you from the rest of the pack.  You might not make as much money as someone who scams others, but I at least, sleep much better a night.  

&quot;This field ranks right up their with politicians, used car salesmen, and the make money infommercials, as far as this field’s reputation goes.&quot;

That&#039;s because of people who go into it with the idea that it&#039;s okay to put your own ethics aside, because &quot;that&#039;s what everyone else does&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This is one of those fields were we can’t be honest about anything. We just have to be politically correct.&#8221;</p>
<p>Only if you want to look just like everyone else.  Maintaining your integrity and doing Internet Marketing the way *you* think it ought to be done is what will differentiate you from the rest of the pack.  You might not make as much money as someone who scams others, but I at least, sleep much better a night.  </p>
<p>&#8220;This field ranks right up their with politicians, used car salesmen, and the make money infommercials, as far as this field’s reputation goes.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s because of people who go into it with the idea that it&#8217;s okay to put your own ethics aside, because &#8220;that&#8217;s what everyone else does&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: ABAN</title>
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		<dc:creator>ABAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 14:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It depends on if I&#039;m clueless due to my own negligence in researching the blog I was buying or because the seller hid that information. If it was my own doing, shame on me. If it was them I would consider legal action depending on the situation.

ABANs last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ablogaboutnothing/BPLT/~3/275294678/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;How to save on gas&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It depends on if I&#8217;m clueless due to my own negligence in researching the blog I was buying or because the seller hid that information. If it was my own doing, shame on me. If it was them I would consider legal action depending on the situation.</p>
<p>ABANs last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ablogaboutnothing/BPLT/~3/275294678/">How to save on gas</a></p>
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		<title>By: Misato Katsuragi</title>
		<link>http://www.johncow.com/cow-question-is-it-ethical-is-it-right/#comment-18467</link>
		<dc:creator>Misato Katsuragi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 07:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Johm,
yes, this is unethical.  But then again, look at the field that we choose to be part of.  The internet marketing field.

This field ranks right up their with politicians, used car salesmen, and the make money infommercials, as far as this field&#039;s reputation goes.

Most of the internet marketing gurus seem to think that there is no such thing as being unethical in internet marketing.  

As far as how you  promote and run you online business, &quot;What it takes is what it takes&quot; seems to be their moddo.

The are also real good at downplaying and sugar coating everything.  

For example, lies and deception aren&#039;t lies and deception in internet marketing.  Nope, we can&#039;t tell it like it is.  We have to label it as &#039;hype&#039;, or risk upsetting the status quo and getting a bunch of flak from a bunch of other internet marketers, beginners and gurus alike.

This is one of those fields were we can&#039;t be honest about anything.  We just have to be politically correct.




&quot;Any way to make money is an acceptable way to make money</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Johm,<br />
yes, this is unethical.  But then again, look at the field that we choose to be part of.  The internet marketing field.</p>
<p>This field ranks right up their with politicians, used car salesmen, and the make money infommercials, as far as this field&#8217;s reputation goes.</p>
<p>Most of the internet marketing gurus seem to think that there is no such thing as being unethical in internet marketing.  </p>
<p>As far as how you  promote and run you online business, &#8220;What it takes is what it takes&#8221; seems to be their moddo.</p>
<p>The are also real good at downplaying and sugar coating everything.  </p>
<p>For example, lies and deception aren&#8217;t lies and deception in internet marketing.  Nope, we can&#8217;t tell it like it is.  We have to label it as &#8216;hype&#8217;, or risk upsetting the status quo and getting a bunch of flak from a bunch of other internet marketers, beginners and gurus alike.</p>
<p>This is one of those fields were we can&#8217;t be honest about anything.  We just have to be politically correct.</p>
<p>&#8220;Any way to make money is an acceptable way to make money</p>
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		<title>By: evilwoobie</title>
		<link>http://www.johncow.com/cow-question-is-it-ethical-is-it-right/#comment-18463</link>
		<dc:creator>evilwoobie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 02:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you sold the mailing add saying that &quot;this add/s hope/s to win the xbox&quot; that would be accurate, and perhaps i&#039;ll bite any other teaser/s the buyer puts out in that direction. It&#039;s related. The contest is related to the site&#039;s theme, so it&#039;s not unethical.

evilwoobies last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://evilwoobie.com/2008/05/26/online-dating-how-to/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Online Dating How To&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you sold the mailing add saying that &#8220;this add/s hope/s to win the xbox&#8221; that would be accurate, and perhaps i&#8217;ll bite any other teaser/s the buyer puts out in that direction. It&#8217;s related. The contest is related to the site&#8217;s theme, so it&#8217;s not unethical.</p>
<p>evilwoobies last blog post..<a href="http://evilwoobie.com/2008/05/26/online-dating-how-to/">Online Dating How To</a></p>
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		<title>By: Lori B.</title>
		<link>http://www.johncow.com/cow-question-is-it-ethical-is-it-right/#comment-18454</link>
		<dc:creator>Lori B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 01:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, so this kind of hit home for me. Years ago I bought a brick and mortar business. It was a print and copy shop. I had a dispute with the seller regarding the details of a 5 year contract on one of the large copiers. The seller disclosed that it was a 5 year contract but did not disclose that she didn&#039;t start paying on the lease until 6 months after she got the copier. What this meant was that I ended up paying 6 months more than what I had assumed I would have to. (At $1500. a month, this was quite a chunk of cash) I ended up suing her in small claims court (I tried to work it out with her but she thought she was right). I ended up winning. She then appealed and we went to superior court. I won there too. 

Bottom Line: Yes, the buyer should do &quot;due diligence&quot; however, the seller (since they are making the money here) has a greater responsibility of &quot;full disclosure&quot; - especially if it is something that you are clearly aware of going into the deal. 

I believe it is unethical - and possibly even illegal if it goes that far (but that decision is dependent on the judge) :wink:

Lori B.s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://unityhomefitness.com/blog/5/space-saving-exercise-equipment/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Space-Saving Exercise Equipment&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, so this kind of hit home for me. Years ago I bought a brick and mortar business. It was a print and copy shop. I had a dispute with the seller regarding the details of a 5 year contract on one of the large copiers. The seller disclosed that it was a 5 year contract but did not disclose that she didn&#8217;t start paying on the lease until 6 months after she got the copier. What this meant was that I ended up paying 6 months more than what I had assumed I would have to. (At $1500. a month, this was quite a chunk of cash) I ended up suing her in small claims court (I tried to work it out with her but she thought she was right). I ended up winning. She then appealed and we went to superior court. I won there too. </p>
<p>Bottom Line: Yes, the buyer should do &#8220;due diligence&#8221; however, the seller (since they are making the money here) has a greater responsibility of &#8220;full disclosure&#8221; &#8211; especially if it is something that you are clearly aware of going into the deal. </p>
<p>I believe it is unethical &#8211; and possibly even illegal if it goes that far (but that decision is dependent on the judge) <img src='http://www.johncow.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=':wink:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Lori B.s last blog post..<a href="http://unityhomefitness.com/blog/5/space-saving-exercise-equipment/">Space-Saving Exercise Equipment</a></p>
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		<title>By: Noobpreneur</title>
		<link>http://www.johncow.com/cow-question-is-it-ethical-is-it-right/#comment-18452</link>
		<dc:creator>Noobpreneur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 00:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I think it&#039;s unethical - but &#039;norm&#039; in the Net is somekinda blur, isn&#039;t it? :P

Please read what I think of things similar to your cow question - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.noobpreneur.com/2008/05/06/buying-forum-and-blog-posts-to-increase-website-traffic-ethical/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Buying Forum and Blog Posts to Increase Website Traffic - Ethical?&lt;/a&gt;

That&#039;s what I&#039;m thinking about the artificial stuffs and the blogosphere.

Cheers!

Noobpreneurs last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.noobpreneur.com/2008/05/27/moving-houses-an-opportunity-to-start-fresh/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Moving Houses - An Opportunity to Start Fresh&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s unethical &#8211; but &#8216;norm&#8217; in the Net is somekinda blur, isn&#8217;t it? <img src='http://www.johncow.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Please read what I think of things similar to your cow question &#8211; <a href="http://www.noobpreneur.com/2008/05/06/buying-forum-and-blog-posts-to-increase-website-traffic-ethical/">Buying Forum and Blog Posts to Increase Website Traffic &#8211; Ethical?</a></p>
<p>That&#8217;s what I&#8217;m thinking about the artificial stuffs and the blogosphere.</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
<p>Noobpreneurs last blog post..<a href="http://www.noobpreneur.com/2008/05/27/moving-houses-an-opportunity-to-start-fresh/">Moving Houses &#8211; An Opportunity to Start Fresh</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark Mason</title>
		<link>http://www.johncow.com/cow-question-is-it-ethical-is-it-right/#comment-18448</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Mason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 20:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@klein  Wow.  I think you should identify the unethical things that you are doing (assuming you are in business yourself) and stop doing them.

Mark Masons last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/MasonWorld/~3/298336839/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Cloaking Links: Why Bother&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@klein  Wow.  I think you should identify the unethical things that you are doing (assuming you are in business yourself) and stop doing them.</p>
<p>Mark Masons last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/MasonWorld/~3/298336839/">Cloaking Links: Why Bother</a></p>
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